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CPU Wars Ryzen 7 2700X Vs i7 8700K - AMD Closes The Gap!

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IAH jetsetter (16 days ago)
hmmm seems like Intel CPUs runs a lot hotter. My current i7 7700K that has been OC'd to 4.9Ghz and paired with a Corsair H100V2 cooler still runs at 100C when benchtested. Man, this video is compelling me to swap over to an AMD Ryzen 7
Radiant Jumper (1 month ago)
Do you think AMD Ryzen 7 2700X would be a better option for music production workstation even though single core (important for instance in Ableton) speed is slower then i7 8700K but it is much cooler?
DesertFoxAlpha (1 month ago)
aright i have the same build like the mobo and amd cpu but with the stock cpu cooler the wrath prism would there is it worth keeping this cpu cooler or get something better ?
gojo modu (1 month ago)
So glad I abandoned the Intel platform (i5 7600k). I went r5 1600 and then moved up to a 12nm 2700x. Soon I can upgrade again to the 7nm chip all on the same Asrock X370 Board. You just dont get that with Intel. My old 7600k is now a dated relic of a Cpu that has aged horribly
Mark Langdahl (2 months ago)
This is the closest they have ever been? I remember my old Athlon Thunderbird 1400... That was faster than the best Intel had at the time...
Fυℓℓвяιηg (2 months ago)
That long ass annoying fucking Ads just make me watch something else!
Tek (2 months ago)
I'm getting the AMD Ryzen 2700x it's really high level processor that is made for everything.
Stian Kleivbakk (2 months ago)
I don't buy Gigabyte anymore. I mean they're the cheapest here but I've had problems with all gigabyte boards I've ever owned since intel released the Q6600. The random blackouts due to an "kernel power((64?) if i recall correctly)" error (basically means you've manually powered down the system) and random bluescreens of whatever the fuck the reason seems to "magically" disappear when you swap to whatever other board you can find. Asus I've never had trouble with except the early Ryzen BIOS adoption thingy, where AMD eventually shipped a "free"(shipping wasn't free here *sigh*) junk cpu just so you could update your BIOS to the right version. Call me an Asus fanboy if you want. The only Asus thing I own is the motherboard and it just fucking works :)
Duckers (2 months ago)
Which cooler was even used there? 8700k stock here, kraken X52 240mm and my temps with some fan curves hit max 69c.
ForeverZero (2 months ago)
So, just bought my CPU and Motherboard. Just got the motherboard and2700x is on its way. Well when you said you had problems with a motherboard... THought i'd be screwed.. then you showed the first board and it wasn't mine, then you said there was another and then you took out the board I bought, hope it doesn't go badly for me like it did for you I don't have any money left over for a spare motherboard. :/
Architect (2 months ago)
6:25 Thanks me later
dias (3 months ago)
wtf is that god awful music during the comparisons holy fuck
Z Ye (3 months ago)
Have u flashed the bios
Just Gaming Johnny (3 months ago)
Why not combine the results into ONE slide? Why separate them ?
The Answer 42 (3 months ago)
Asus gets it.
CountCarbsNotCals (3 months ago)
Can't find graphs and comparisons, but still looking.
Minus (3 months ago)
B/S AMD propaganda. I have overclocked 4790K and 8700K at 4.7 / 4.9 Ghz on air cooling, not jumping over 85C in Prime95 stress test, or 65C in gaming. Pure B/S. You should stop making youtube videos about PC hardware if you cant manage to cool your cpus. 1.423V on 8700K??? Really?! My 8700K is on 1.275V @ 4.8Ghz on air cooling. Pure B/S!!
Minus (3 months ago)
AMD closes the gap (on performance). But the greedy bastards closed the gap on price as well. I hope AMD fanboys realize now that their favourite company does not give a shit about them.
xoppa09 (3 months ago)
Great video! Very useful information for amd fanboys and computer builders (without a motherboard your cpu is useless).
zanychelly (3 months ago)
I hope that their next gpu, that one they are developing with Sony, challenges NVIDIA .
Zyndo (3 months ago)
heavily biased testing here.... If you want to show off AMD's potential and hate on the 8700k for whatever reason then fine, go for it. But doing things like using a very good 240mm AIO on the 2700x and a terrible 120mm AIO on the 8700k then calling Intel out for being hotter than Ryzen is just laughable. I mean, the 8700k DOES have a heat problem, but this is a very dishonest way of showing it. Then we look at your benchmark titles. FC5, sure, go for it. GTA V? getting a bit dated but, sure, it's still a relatively demanding game, go for it. Division? wth you doing m8. and then doing only 3 games to get an idea of which is the better gaming CPU is just, again, disingenuous. Terrible video by a terrible youtuber.
Kyung-min Jin (3 months ago)
why not placing numbers next to each other? Having to go back to see gaming result seem kinda stupid
81keyholder (3 months ago)
dont u mean the AMD system kicked ass on farcry 5, Not the intel!!!
BlueFox (3 months ago)
I frickin love that benchmark song! Rock on!
Bjørn Wikan (3 months ago)
How the fuck did you get the 8700k to go to 100c at stock, mine is at 70 at a oc of 4,8 all cores? And that is after hours of gaming, and no delid.
MohondhaY (3 months ago)
Only problem is that Ryzen doesn't like to OC. Imagine the performance if it did like at least 4.5Ghz on all 8 cores! Man! Love my 2700X though. My first AMD build!
enaz2 (3 months ago)
I am using the X470 Aorus Ultra gaming motherboard at this very moment. Had no issues installing Windows 10 and now is working fine, could be better I guess but I don't regret it (had to update the drivers after installing windows but no big deal)
Georgi Popov (4 months ago)
Wow. Is that Intel CPU temp real? Damn... could it be because of some problem of the cooling installation that you guys didn't notice? Anyway - liked ryzen even in the 1st gen, will get ryzen system asap
Greg Henry (4 months ago)
Rock & Roll Vork, putting in the work!
misterPAINMAKER (4 months ago)
So there is a gap.
Bitcoin4Life (4 months ago)
Good video man, efin love the benchmark song lol. When you do your overclocking comparison between these two CPU’s I hope you run the 2700x with high quality samsung b-die memory (something around ddr4 4000) using the “stilt 3466” memory preset built into the C7H bios. Also turning on performance enhancer to PE3 it will allow the CPU to boost multiple cores up to 4350mhz and hold it as long as you have enough cooling and Vcore. AMD has put in the work to control boost states of the Ryzen and especially the Ryzen + CPU’s so for the most part I do not recommend people to set the multiplier manually as it will only lower single thread performance. If you are wanting to overclock above the 4350 MHz range set PE3 and then start raising the reference clock. Some have managed to get the 2700x boost clocks around 4.5ghz for a few cores and all cores around 4300mhz.
Keoma Fernandes (4 months ago)
Wow, very disappointed with Gigabyte. They are my brand to go for motherboards. They should've given you more attention.
BenjerminGaye (4 months ago)
did you delid the intel cpu and got rid of the shoddy tim? drops temps by 20 degrees and pushes the 8700k to 5ghz
aaron ward (4 months ago)
Have you thought about a bios update to the other motherboards?
Sultan Singh (4 months ago)
Yo just remind me of my old days when I use to watch your Reviews...
Alexandros Gougoulakos (4 months ago)
39 fps on 4k on the i7 8700k on far cry 5?that is wrong.i have the i5 6600k with the gtx 1080ti and get 55-58 on ultra at 4k.
Jerry Watson (4 months ago)
I agree, AMD has given Intel a reason to be scared. Great to see the benchmarks again. Thanks for all your hard work.
Todd Simone (4 months ago)
So Far Cry 5, 4K Ryzen gets 53fps while the 8700k gets 39? Dude I don't mean to discredit you but something is amiss!
Brandon B (4 months ago)
I went with the ASUS ROG Strix B350-F for my R7 1700 and it holds every bit of 3.8Ghz at 1.225v LLC @ High. Asus is my goto when I want to build a solid system to overclock on. Also took the GSkill Trident Z RGB CL16-18-18-38 3000 no problem and with a slight bump to voltage took 3200mhz with the same timings ;) Plain and simple ASUS rocks.
R.a. Wheeler (4 months ago)
I have not been excited about AMD cpus for some time, I love their graphics cards, and plenty of excitement there. But just 15 years ago AMD was giving Intel a ride for it's money each day of the week until about 2006 with the Core duo cpu, The pentium m started this power trend for Intel, and after the first gen of I core cpus I had some doubts on AMD. I glad to see this competition again. About time AMD!!!
Anona Mouse (4 months ago)
Underdog No More !!
Christian Samudio (4 months ago)
I like i7 because can make hackintosh
Chris (4 months ago)
So i bought the ASUS ROG Crosshair VI Hero last year. Is there any reason too change it too V2? Whats the difference? I bought ryzen 7 1700 cause of the future proof motherboard. :) So i can maybe upgrade too ryzen 3 whenever that happends :P
폴Spurs (4 months ago)
what about 8700 not K it is ok not overheat? it is I7 8700 k> Ryzen 5 2600/2700? I like intel because it has integrated videocards , I buy later videocards and if videocard broken i can used the built in cards
Zonther (4 months ago)
I'm assuming that he ran the memory at 2133MHz and not 2933MHz. You will see a deference in performance on the AMD CPU. Push the memory to or past 3200 MHz and it will get up to or past skylake single core performance at CPU stock speeds. I don't know if I won the silicon lottery but I can clock my 2700X to 4.375 GHz on all cores at 1.45V. With the CPU overclocked and ram running at 3200MHz, it is a beast of a system.
zhevox (4 months ago)
Holy shit 100c!!
Jeff Smith (4 months ago)
So AMD only needs 8 cores and 16 threads to get close to Intel's 6 cores and 12 threads? Why not compare AMD's 6 core 12 thread processor to the 8700k?
Jeff Smith (4 months ago)
pitiful anonymous price shouldn't be a factor when comparing performance. 2/4 more cores should be.
pitiful anonymous (4 months ago)
Maybe the price differentiation?
eljuancho2 (4 months ago)
Wow thank you very much!
Seba Manriquez (4 months ago)
Really nice to see you doing well, missed the high quality videos and that metal for the score montage. Keep getting better, thnx for another upload.
mjw665 (4 months ago)
Thats odd, my Aorus X470 works fine. I agree it doesn't make sense. :(
fishing up a storm (4 months ago)
you need 2 of the same hd in raid
FarkyJTV (4 months ago)
nice work thanks.good health!
Luigi Velasco (4 months ago)
I more like the music background :D
Anthony Davis (4 months ago)
As soon as AMD figure out how to get Ryzen clocking to 4.6Ghz+ it will cause a whole heap of shit at Intel HQ as that's the only reason they're beating Ryzen as the IPC difference between them is next to nothing.
TDR REVENGE (4 months ago)
"Intel kicked ass on Far Cry 5" ?, im sure Elric meant AMD.
The Matirx red pill (4 months ago)
The 2700x has metal solder where the intel uses toothpaste. I have a 8600k myself which when at stock self runs on all 6 cores at 4.2 Ghz at in the 40oC range. I expect 70oC range when overclocked. The hyperthreaded 8700k when overclocked runs as hot as a fukushima nuclear reactor.
Alpharevx (4 months ago)
The tables have turned, Intel is cooking now!
Shirayuki5 (4 months ago)
my aorus ultra gaming worked from the first boot without a single complaint... runs ever since
xjusterx (4 months ago)
Elric wtf man? My 7700k in fc5 giving me average 59 fps on ultra and 8700k is better, man that was some shitty tests right there....
Midnight (4 months ago)
rip benchmarks are not side by side xD had to keep going back to compare
Knightospr (4 months ago)
A Gigabyte board, been on my blacklist for years! So Gigabyte aint better today, than back then!
Dr. Khan (4 months ago)
Make a video of testing the motherboard, make videos of hardware failures and you will have more followers. I think your channel needs to evolve a bit.
Law Cheat Shen (4 months ago)
How about pubg? i want to build a pc that could stream pubg at the same time. so which should i go?
Constantino (4 months ago)
wait, 100*c without OC'd ? something isnt dont right. good vid though
Canaan Banana (4 months ago)
hey bra that greenscreen is heaps disconcerting bra
Constantino (4 months ago)
Oi, what song is that during the benchmark results ? plz n ty \m/
GravellerGear (4 months ago)
Only reason why I don't like Ryzen 2700 is that it doesn't heat up enough to keep me warm at night. Everything else about it I love.
RealTheXev (4 months ago)
The reason AMD is able to compete head to head with Intel besides offering a competitive product, is the fact that Intel's 'rebate' system was found to be illegal. Now OEM PC manufacturers can actually offer AMD machines without getting a huge price increase on their Intel processors. You can actually go to dell, hp, and others and BUY AMD, which is something in the 2000's you weren't able to do because of Intel's illegal rebate system. This is why Intel can't get away with the old underhanded tactics they used in the past, and will have to simply make a superior product to compete. AMD had fantastic products during the Athlon, AthlonXP, and especially during the Athlon64 era (where the Ahtlon64 was clearly superior), but with the end of the rebate program... Intel's gotta step up. But you know, Intel really can't care so much about the consumer market... it's the server market where Intel is probably getting destroyed the most. If you were a business... how could you justify a much more expensive Intel part when Epyc is offering a huge value and amazing performance? I wish we knew more about the market numbers in the sever market but you just aren't hearing about them.
Artcore103 (4 months ago)
wtf is he talking about, after the benchmarks he says there was 1 exception where "intel kicked ass in far cry 5"... however if you look at the numbers, intel barely wins (111 vs 105) at 1080p, but AMD takes a HUGE win at 1440 and 4k in far cry 5. he's got it backwards. *edit* ah, then at the end he says it the right way and says that AMD is faster. he just messed up the first time.
Massimo Quintano (4 months ago)
X470 AORUS ultra gaming, I have it and is working just PERFECT!!! And the benchmark of memory and CPU are almost always the most high when I'm comparing with other rigs, I get ASUS paid you more.... But you should be fair man!!!!
Matthew Houser (4 months ago)
As to the Heat issues with the 8700K did you turn off core performance boost or was it on for the testing? Core performance boost is a motherboard overclock and takes the Intel CPU out of spec for normal operation. it will also skew the results for the testing as it artificially inflates the scores for Intel cpus. There have been numerous stories by other Tech press showing that there is an issue with using core performance boost as it does not keep the CPU in spec with what Intel has designed the CPU to run at. I also think you either lost the Silicon Lottery with your 8700K as it should be much lower in temperatures even with core performance boost or overclocking it manually that what you are seeing, maybe high 80C's or low 90C's.
BreakingDimes 0_0 (4 months ago)
it would be great if u put the results side by side
Ulfric Stormcloak (4 months ago)
never play intel
Sae (4 months ago)
The gaming charts were organised weirdly and it makes it hard to compare, so for those who want an easier way to see, here you are. *FAR CRY 5* _Ryzen_ vs _Intel_ 1080p, *105* _vs_ *111* 1440p, *92* _vs_ *75* 4K, *53* _vs_ *39* *FOR HONOR* _Ryzen_ vs _Intel_ 1080p, *177* _vs_ *179* 1440p, *121* _vs_ *122* 4K, *61* _vs_ *61* *GTA V* _Ryzen_ vs _Intel_ 1080p, *139* _vs_ *167* 1440p, *131* _vs_ *153* 4K, *87* _vs_ *88* *METRO LAST LIGHT* _Ryzen_ vs _Intel_ 1080p, *144* _vs_ *179* 1440p, *119* _vs_ *128* 4K, *65* _vs_ *74* *THE DIVISION* _Ryzen_ vs _Intel_ 1080p, *169* _vs_ *176* 1440p, *104* _vs_ *113* 4K, *50* _vs_ *59* To sum all those numbers up, here's the kind of performance improvement you can expect at each graphical level. 1080p, *9.4%* for _Intel_ 1440p, *1.5%* for _Intel_ 4K, *1.5%* for _Ryzen_
Terrance Wolf (4 months ago)
that benchmark song rules subbed
Nguyen Luan (4 months ago)
I have the ryzen 2700x with GTX 1080 Ti in SLI and it rocks man
Johan Krüger-Haglert (4 months ago)
Basically Intel winning. Which it does. But the systems weren't even the same. The game numbers are very hard to compare like this too.
Elite Exposure (4 months ago)
So no side by side chart comparisons? Also the numbers were transparent, whatsup with that?
Od1sseas (4 months ago)
Fake benchmarks. Reported for misleading
Lothar Scholz (4 months ago)
Did this board never worked or did we just reach a new level of influencer marketing strategy?
Robinson Joe (4 months ago)
Techtuber with Metal for music. Subbed.
Henderson Sobers (4 months ago)
Thanks for the warning on those boards. Did you ever find out what the issues were?
Daniel J (4 months ago)
Stick to older tried and proven hardware. Intel forever tho. Also, I wish "testers" would get to testing Fallout 4 which is HEAVY CPU usage in some areas, like downtown Boston. Serious fame rate drops even with good systems.
Brandon Quixote (4 months ago)
Came for the numbers, stayed for the music. Great Riffage and their drummer's got some quick feet. 10/10. Was headbanging so hard I missed some of the numbers and had to rewatch.
James Fox (4 months ago)
@TechofTomorrow ( bebo) is a hacker , dont be fooled by anything He says . pfffttt just spent like 4 hours finding this out . a kid in fact , pfffftttt
James Fox (4 months ago)
Gigabyte has been going Down hill for what 6 years , almost like they arent listening
Lesliegiiir (4 months ago)
C F (4 months ago)
I love that AMD is making great CPU's again! I personally bought the 8700k but they are both amazing CPU's.
Robert Dimaggio (4 months ago)
WORD!!!! I bought the Gigabyte x370 version and it was trash. It died and Gigabyte refused to RMA because they would not answer their phones....literally had to leave voicemails....then they dropped my board after saying the package was delivered fine and refused to finish RMA due to damage.....Avoid like the plague.
aku dia (4 months ago)
not to mention, those MSI gaming plus and aorus ultra gaming is in different price range with maximus crosshair. Msi gaming plus is half the price of Asus Crosshair, and Gigabyte is two-third cheaper than Asus one.. illustration: u can get msi gaming plus X470 with 2600X for Asus X470 Crosshair price
Dean Smith (4 months ago)
There's something wrong with them 8700k temps
JoOnDy Bapaylo (4 months ago)
asus and asrock r the best mobos i ve ever seen when it come to price/quality asrock win for me / msi and aorus mobos r awful msi vrm r so hot and aorus is just terrible
Mr Original Abides (4 months ago)
I moved to Intel recently with the i7-8700k never been happier. Intel ftw. Surprised at far cry 5.
Josh C (4 months ago)
learned a long time ago when in doubt, get Asus.
Lucas Miranda (4 months ago)
From what I see on other tests, AMD and Intel have about same speed, but at some situations AMD is faster. What really shines on AMD Ryzer 2000 series, they stay much cooler then Intel, difference of 15-30% cooler. Also AMD has a lower CPU usage for same tasks, sometimes up to 50% less.
ReputableGentleman (4 months ago)
Intel is needing to step up its game soon, they also need to solder their cpu's again because this is making it harder to over clock because of the thermals. And AMD is doing an excellent job but really needs to fix those motherboard problems because not everyone can afford a top tier Asus board just to run a Ryzen 7, c'mon AMD.
aku dia (4 months ago)
basically its about 8700 or 8700K....me, 8700 non K with B360.....AMD 2700X? ? if u want to give it a try, go ahead,..me?? nahh
SteelCity1981 (4 months ago)
i mean the 8700k is two cores cores and 4 threads less than the 2700x but still is able to beat the 2700x in some multithreaded workloads. so that's not saying much for the 2700x when it's still getting beat in a some multithreaded workloads to a cpu with less cores and less threads. to me it just shows you how good intel's ipc performance is and how amd has still yet to catch up to intel. with that said amd has come a very long way with ryzen since bulldozer and ryzen 2 will be even better. i think amd has a chance to beat intel core for core if amd continues on the same path that they are going and that could happen as soon as ryzen 2, because the upcoming 9th gen ice lake cpu doesn't seem like any sort of game changer for intel at the moment, which will give amd the perfect chance to finally surpass intel with ryzen 2.
Karim Debbagh (4 months ago)
AMD is really gaining market share from Intel
pascalpascal85 (4 months ago)
80 Intel fan boys give dumps down haha crybabies

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