Here are the reasons why Sonic Heroes, Next Gen, & Unleashed are NOT Sonic Adventure 3.
Also, please do not witch-hunt the people who were trying to convince me that one of the Sonic games were Sonic Adventure 3 or the people who believe that Sonic Next Gen is not a reboot. Thank you.
***Takashi Iizuka’s interview with Electronic Gaming Monthly (EGM)***
*** Takashi Iizuka’s interview with Edge***
***IGN’s Article of Sonic Next Gen***
***gameindustry.biz’s Article of Sonic Next Gen***
***Pete Capella's (Silver's former VA) Resume***
***The Development Process of Sonic the Hedgehog (2006)***
***Blaze is from an alternative dimension***
***SEGA does not care about continuity***
***The Super Emeralds, along with Hyper Sonic, Hyper Knuckles & Super Tails, are no longer canon***
***Blaze remembers Crisis City in Sonic Generations***
***Sonic Unleashed began as Sonic Adventure 3***
***Yoshihisa Hashimoto’s interview with Nintendo Power***
*** Iizuka Speaks of Sonic Adventure 3…Sort Of***
@14:40 - 14:59 HOLY SHIT!!! I WAS RIGHT!!!
“If we can get the gameplay to evolve and get to a place where Adventure 3 makes sense, then you might see an Adventure 3 come out,” said Iizuka. “But we don’t want to take the entire series back to where it was just make people happy. We want to advance the idea of what a Sonic game is.”
Umm...Sonic 4? Sonic Generations? Sonic Mania? Classic Sonic shoehorned in Sonic Forces? Only wants classic stages in Sonic Mania? :/ Is Iizuka for real? The fact that he is not self aware is hilarious XD!
But your missing one thing and this is sonic adventure one and 2 are the events of sonic x .so mostly were just playing sonic x but just in a different way plus if sonic adventure 3 was going to happen it mostly have to be about the metarex just like in the sonic x series
Sonic adventure 3 is technically unleashed, in Japan it is sonic world adventure and was but the night stages ruined the whole thing, so when it came to America it was changed to unleashed cuz the werehog stages. But in Japan where it's made in kept the name adventure and ran along with it. Get it ran along, but with out night stages in America it would be called world adventure bringing a new view on the adventure series, but the sonic fan base hates change so much. Remember when sonic got "older" that didn't sit too well for the "fans" your going for what Americans think and say while Sonic Team of AMERICA responds for Japan, and Japan rolled with it because we Americans can get very rude and confused. Long story short no werehog = sawa aka sa3 meaning change also resorting to chaos pun intended and propaganda saying that it was "false advisement" plus the Wii version was more open like the og adventure stages while the remastered was more compressed like the modern games.
If the super emeralds and Hyper Sonic are no longer cannon that wouldn't that mean S3&K is no longer cannon? That means the events in that game, collecting the Super Emeralds and going Hyper to stop the true final boss is no longer cannon? Tekashi Izuka really confuses me sometimes with his decisions
If Sega still made consoles somehow, I like to imagine that a "Sonic Adventure" game would be sort of a tradition they do whenever they launch a new console. To be honest, it really just kinda feels wrong to have SA3 after Sega is not making hardware anymore. It's like Sega was gearing up to have it's next big trilogy, but then it just abruptly stopped when the reality of having to discontinue hit.
If the Dreamcast never failed, I have no doubt we'd have a Dreamcast trilogy as a spiritual successor to the Genesis trilogy.
You make a good argument but somewhere in my heart I still think all those games are somewhat a part of Sonic Adventure 3. Like a trilogy. (Sonic 4 pops up ) A complete and practically good trilogy!(Sonic 4 sinks down)
Sonic Team naming a game "Sonic Adventure 3" at this point would be an extremely dumb move. It would just be a bad look.
This obsession with "What makes a game a Sonic Adventure game" is even more stupid.
Can't we just enjoy our Sonic games for what the are?
Aha, the whole double / triple boost thing. I don't make a big deal about that because I assume they're combining some sort of "friendship power". Yeah it sounds stupid, but that's why I say fix the canon. Pontac and Graff have been around since Colors. They need to be fired out of a physical cannon.
Miner Plays Badly true, plus sonic can't count. What's a "triple boost" if only 1 out of the 3 characters can boost?
06 would've probably been SA3 or something similar if they replaced Alice with sally, and not make it look THAT realistic.
Miner Plays Badly i agree. Good point my man. You're right about sifting all the gameplay elements. And yes, the "adventure formula" isn't all perfect, and neither is the boost. You're right. And yes, fix the canon and the characters. Maybe they should do a generations 2sort of thing, with classic, adventure, and modern sonic. Boom sonic doesnt really have a main gameplay element. And I'm sorry for praising the adventure elements too Mich. The boost element is actually a good idea, I ju think they over use it too much. Colors did a great job of balancing your ring count for your boost for boost segments. Generations did a great job of quickness, and tricks that did a nostalgic resemblance to sonic rush adventure. Both are great features.
BITCH, 06 HAS ALMOST EVERYTHING FROM THE ADVENTURE SERIES, THAT 1 EXECPTION BEING A CHAO GARDEN! PLUS IT CLEARLY SAID IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A REBOOT, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT IS. READ YOUR INFORMATION CAREFULLY DORA ! ALSO WHEN YOU WERE DISPROVING UNLEASHED YOU SAID THAT ORIGINALLY INITIALIZED AS SA3 SO THAT MEANS YOU JUST DISPROVED ONE OF YOUR POINTS ABOUT 06 NOT BEING SA3, PLUS IN 06, WHEN YOUR PLAYING SILVER'S STORY, IN THE FIRST LEVEL, YOU CAN FIND A BURNT UP BILLBOARD ADVERTISING CHAO IN SPACE 3 , THAT MEANS THAT 06 IS SA3
Sonic 06 is a shitty reboot. The story doesn't really stand on its own and the game erases itself from the canon anyway. If the game didn't redesign Eggman, fuck up Blaze's origin, and was named Sonic Adventure 3 (& Knuckles) there would be no argument over 06 being SA3. (Well, titles are hard to argue anyway... Stupid Sonic 4...)
1:28 I will tell you why 06 is Sonic Adventure 3 because it’s has THE most common with the sonic Adventure series than any game in the franchise and I’m amazed how you and many many people and YouTubers didn’t make the connection in the end of the world level you play as everyone (except for sonic and blaze), in the Final level for sa2 you play as everyone in hero story and dark story (except for shadow) in one scene The egg carrier appears in souliama (correct my spelling if Im wrong) and Amy sees it and in sa1 the egg carrier appears and Amy sees it in Station Square. I know in your opinion you may not agree with this and I respect that but trust me Sonic 06 has a lot in common to the Adventure series than meets the eye
InklingRacerBrawler it's not worthy of the title and later on in the video he proves it's a reboot clearly.
I will say this though.
It's the closest to adventure 3 we will ever be getting.
Aaaand that's it. It's just not adventure 3 simple as that
Sonic heros is SA3 sega said the reason that its called hero's cuz so more people would buy it more if they named it SA3 barely anyone would buy it and would try to find the others and play those first it was said in did you know gaming and it doesn't matter if there is no Chao garden I hate when people say that oh BTW your a weaboo
The thing with Crush 40 nowadays, if you dont remember at the 25th anniversary party when he performed live, he mostly relied on the crowd to sing with him. I'm not entirely sure, but I think Johnny (singer) has some form of throat cancer, and that could be why he sounded very tired that night. As much as I would love to hear his voice in a Sonic game again and as a new song, I doubt we'll get anything.
Sonic 06 wasn't really a reboot, but it wasn't SA3 either. No chao garden, no gameplay variety between characters, and no whimsy in the story at all. It's the closest we've got, but it's not quite there.
+InklingRacer Brawler Yeah, if Sega was smart they would just ignore it outright and pretend Silver debuted in Rivals. But hey, Sonic 4 bombed and we still got Sonic Mania, an absolutely incredible game, so an "Adventure Mania" doesn't sound too implausible
I honestly don't want an SA3, at least not with that title (but then it's not SA3 to all of these purists in the fanbase *sighs*). It's been way too long since SA2 and the SA games have just been homaged in a ton of games since which include similar features and gameplay aspects.
I don't get some fans. SA3 doesn't fucking exist, no shit. These games are just similar to each other. Do people not actually acknowledge that? Why do people even make these types of videos? It's just opinions in all honesty really, since none of these games are titled SA3. Shouldn't that just be it? It's not called it, so it's not, it's just very similar.
I'm not sure you missed it, but I pointed out why I made this video @1:00. The people who commented in one of my old videos @1:13 were trying trying to convinced me that Sonic Heroes, Sonic 06, or Sonic Unleashed were Sonic Adventure 3. They're not nicknaming those games, "Sonic Adventure 3", mate. They truly believe that these titles are called Sonic Adventure 3, even though those games are not titled as Sonic Adventure 3. And it's not just them, there are other Sonic fans out there who believe that Heroes, Next Gen, or Unleashed are Sonic Adventure 3. I made this video to show that Sonic Team had no attentions on making Sonic Heroes, Sonic 06, and Sonic Unleashed as Sonic Adventure 3. Well, except for Unleashed, but I already explain why that game is not technically Sonic Adventure 3.
Yes, it's clear that these games are similar to the Adventure titles. I have no problem with people comparing the Adventure games with Heroes, Next Gen, and Unleashed, but if they're going to called these games, "Sonic Adventure 3" they should know what they are talking about. Yes, in the end of the day, they're just opinions and it's a no brainier that Heroes, Next Gen, and Unleashed are not Sonic Adventure 3. I just wanted people to be informed about the stuff I found the internet and be open minded before they start talking out of their asses, that's all.
I think what people don't understand is how similar each game is to some of the past games, hence why they nickname it such things. They're not LITERALLY Sonic Adventure 3, it's just that people are so tired of everyone begging for a SA2 sequel I think, since we've had similar games since then. The Sonic Adventure games weren't identical to each other, they're still sequels though. I think the similarities that are so obvious because they play similar (Sonic 06) and have similar level design. In my opinion, I think people can't seem to admit these similarities. Also, they can't get over the Adventure games, at least the fanboys can't.
Holy fuck dude. Simmer the hell down. It's SONIC THE HEDGEHOG! Think about that before you open your mouth and make yourself look like the saddest piece of shit I've seen all day. I know NOTHING about you except that you're worthless and have no life IE. time to check these things out and care. Hope you're proud of yourself. I really do. I sincerely hope for a SPLIT second you feel better about yourself because you downloaded and rummaged through all artwork of Sonic just to point out he dosen't have blue arms. Like that was going to blow the fucking CONTINUITY out of the water and blow our FUCKING minds somehow. Being that Sonic the Hedghehog is known for it's sharp and detective like continuity. Blaze the Cat. Even the fucking CREATOR said fuck this and LEFT....but you...no YOU sat down and figured this out and now you look SO brilliant in front of us. Man....is my face red. I'm so ashamed of myself for not being a big fucking loser who has to spend my time nitpicking a fucking KIDS game (even in Japan it's for CHILDREN you weeaboo piece of shit) like you. Nice work.
But Sonic Unleashed is the closest we'll get to a Adventure 3 till we get a official SA3.
And the Chao Garden was referenced a few times in the game.
But you do have valid points but logically Unleashed is SA3 :)
Also SEGA won't make another Sonic Adventure 3, if had literally many chances to make SA3 but no they just have to keep experimenting and fuck up these games, also the Sonic fan base keeps begging for a SA3 and Izuka would have made it by now, Sega knows that they will fuck up SA3 cuz the Sonic fan base will never be pleased anyways.
Jesus. Watching this video & finding out the continuity is botched, the fans who keep on b_ _ _ _ing about these games being SA3 when they're not, & Takashi Iizuka clearly not caring about continuity & lore, makes me wonder why i'm still even a Sonic fan.
Well, at least we have the Archie Comics to fall ba--Oh wait, they're gone.............may IDW find some people that give a shit about these things.
The people who still believe SA3 exists as of this moment are idiots.
There are games that use the SA and SA2 formula and adapt from it, but those games are not "Adventure games".
Of course Heroes and Shadow the Hedgehog are continuations of the SA story line, but those games aren't labeled as SA3 or 4 now are they? Get a grip, you idiots who still believe this. -_-
Edit: Okay, calling someone an idiot is a low blow and I apologize for that. However if someone fails to do their own research on these games and miss the obvious points SA fans have been making *for years now*, than it's pretty difficult not to call them idiots. But I take back what I said. What I meant was that they are terribly misinformed.
I also doubt that anyone just wants them to MAKE Sonic Adventure 3. Obviously we want them to make it good. I feel like saying "Sonic Adventure 3" is implication that we mean we want it to be good. So, yes, I DO hope they make Sonic Adventure 3 someday. I don't mean I hope they make it, fucked up or not, I mean I hope they make it and make it good! xD
I would like to see that someday. Yes. I want to see SA3, in glory. To avoid any confusion, that's me saying it'd be cool to see a cool game called Sonic Adventure 3, fitting of the title, and a good game. Someday. Hopefully. Less likely but still possible.
They give a shit about being consistent, just not to an extreme. It's at flux because it allows them the freedom to be diverse. It's like the worlds ARE always being rebooted but with a string of consistency that ties them all together. It'd be like watching a cartoon hat has a storyline but every episode is a different art style with different VA's and a different design for everything. It's almost artistic. XD
Now, when I say "reboot", I mean in the way those idiots meant "Reboot" and not in the way that Sonic 06 actually WAS a reboot. lol I've said before that I think 06 could be like a prequel and not be canon due to wiping itself of existence in its own story, which later is rewritten from Sonic 1 til now. But that was never like a SERIOUS theory. It was like a possibly way to tie 06 to our official canon and still make it non-canon and having never happened. lol
For the same reason, you could say Crisis City shows up in Generations because it distorts time and space, undoing and redoing everything, including previously erased events. It can undo erasing that future and reimplement it in a time/space limbo. It'd be like drawing Crisis City, then painting white over it, then painting Sonic Adventure or some shit, and then Time Eater comes and scrapes that layer of paint off and sits it on another canvas, then scrapes the white layer of paint off, and then scrapes Crisis City's image off and puts IT on another canvas. Now you have 2 new canvases with stolen images of Sonic Adventure and Crisis City, even though the original canvas was Sonic Adventure with Crisis City having no longer existed. Time Eater can do that shit. XD
But in all seriousness... the game mixed a simplistic plot with the commercial idea of playing through the games of Sonic's history... no-brainer. lol
I think he meant that the characters had amnesia after 06 (as expressed by Elise who feels something familiar but isn't sure what. It's common for characters to have amnesia after time travel adventures end)
Frank22222 On the ark you fight artificial chaoses and the biolizard was based on chaos so there are connections knuckles also uses tikal's chant on the ark to cancel the chaos emeralds power so there are links in the story of SA1 and SA2
I think sega keeps attempting to make SA3, but keeps backing down and change it's name and concept because they don't have the guts to pull it off.
I mean, with Sonic Forces, they made a story where Sonic has to work along with OTHER people (it's even what the main theme is all about). This was THE premises to pull off Sonic Adventure 3. But, no.... Classic Sonic and Deviant the Artwork.
I mean, Classic Sonic isn't even relevant! This is not Sonic Generations 2 and we already got Mania FFS! Why couldn't it have been Knuckles or Shadow to smash that boulder in the trailer?
"Marketing strategy" and "guts" are the two opposites for me. Sure, they can perfectly take the most "market strategical" thing to do and release a new game with a new name. It's the safest way to make money as it keeps people's expectations relatively low. Announcing SA3, sure, would be allot riskier. People's expectations would become high and it will by a "do or die" scenario, most likely. It takes more "guts", but if they manage to do it right, they might get even MORE money than other wise. And with Sonic06 as the perfect example of how NOT to do SA3, I am sure they can pull it off (at least gameplay wise).
And I don't agree that the age of SA as any relevance. Kid Icarus: Uprising is the sequel to what? And NES title? It's just a matter of giving it's chance to a game series that had much unexploited potential and it can perfectly turn out right.
your a fucking idiot it's like people like you trying to be the savior of the fan base saying they are not adventure three get it through your shitty american education system and just sink in that your a dumb ass and also just a shitty human in general. and also no body cares about adventure three it's not the early two thousand's any more.
Thanks for backing up why the three games mentioned don't cut it as SA3. Although, we don't need an Adventure successor to bear the "3" necessarily, like how Mania doesn't bear the "4". Also, Generations can qualify as non-canon. We'll see what Forces brings to the table.
@Black Pit Mostly likely. Seeing how Sonic's pose in the true ending looks similar to his pose in the Sonic Forces debut trailer. Not to mention, that the Phantom Ruby makes the same sound effect as Infinite's cube attack in the Sonic Forces E3 Trailer.
Pentacle Dilation Multi-Platform Entertainment I know it's a bit of a spoiler, but according to the true ending of Sonic Mania, Sonic and the time stone are both sucked into this portal. Do you think it was to set up or foreshadow the events of Sonic Forces?
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