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The Nintendo Switch eShop Getting Flooded with Indie Games?

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During a recent investors meeting, it was noted that Nintendo aims to add 20-30 indie games on to the eShop per week going forward. How might this effect the state of indies on the platform? Twitter: https://twitter.com/JohnnyZaccari Discord: https://discordapp.com/invite/K8zzs5
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Darkzeroprojects (13 days ago)
I do respect indie game developers,and am being one myself one day.However I must say a majority of games to me are bland,boring,and bare bones. I get some due to budget,or homage to retro games,but alot just don't win me over. To me ps2 games offer more to me than alot of budget indie titles.
Frankie Garcia (22 days ago)
Search games by price point, them by best selling. Problem solved. I have nearly 50 Indies. Bought two duds and one I just didn't care for but not a bad game. I frequently shop the great deals section. Waited months for Yono to go on sale! Thursday I bought Escapists 2, Putty Pals, Shu, and Adventure Pals all for about $40.
ComradeAlpha (1 month ago)
I don't mind cause I'm not required to buy it so it's fine
M10 (1 month ago)
Too many indies. I love indies so, so, so much. However I don’t know what’s good and what’s bad. I don’t want that much shovelware.
Austin Reed (1 month ago)
I totally agree, ChiGuy. Quality over quantity.
EaGleD0g (1 month ago)
I love indie games, there are some really good games but I'd rather quality over quantity
Skullomadness (1 month ago)
One mans trash is another mans treasure.
mathepiano (1 month ago)
Yaass! Thank you! That's what I'm saying!
CardinalGhast (1 month ago)
The Nintendo Switch eShop is already a mess to try and sort out. A year ago, I would go on the eShop sometimes several times a day to see new and upcoming releases for games, because while they’re weren’t many games in the Switch’s library, nearly all of them were ones that I was interested in. Now, I go on the eShop maybe once a week because I know there’s nothing worth seeing in there and there’s nothing that I haven’t already heard about. It really is a problem that Nintendo needs to address before the Switch’s library ends up like the Wii’s: drowned in shovelware
xGus17 (1 month ago)
The switch is downfalling just like the vita. Gets really good attention and good ports and exclusives the first year, and then midway the second year, it fills with shitty japanese rpg/indie games.
the Tortilla man (1 month ago)
I agree its too much garbage
YoshiWare (1 month ago)
Nintendo Switch is just an Indie Dumpster
TalesOfGod (1 month ago)
Exactly, they are going to flood the market with trash games that are just lazy or filled with bugs. They had a great quality control and now they are going to flood it away with all of these new titles. There isn't even a rating system! Just as you said, they should be competing for a better product. I've bought games I never thought I would and enjoyed them! They should also remove all of the shovelware on the Switch as it is and you can clearly tell which it is if they would be getting abysmal reviews. I don't think Nintendo is realizing this and are just getting too excited as being the place to be for indie games. This will backfire on them if they don't fix it.
Robby Freeman (1 month ago)
E Shop GreenLight if you know what I mean
David Arenas (1 month ago)
for those who are wondering what is the song in the brackground, i think it's Reflection from Celeste's OST
You[']r[e] wrong (1 month ago)
Honestly, I would prefer seperate categories for : 1) "big" or AAA games 2.) Major/quality indie developers (like Nicolis) 3.) High rated games. I am aware that popularity is not a measure of quality, but I will doubt that obvious shovelware would be findable under this category. Obviously, Nintendo should base it on the proportions of like/dislike (or an anverage rating) and set a minimum number, so a random Steam game isn't revealed on top, because the developer's friends liked it.
Furkan Karsandi (1 month ago)
I think the problem isn't with them releasing too many games because lets be honest, most of those games will be decent and worth the cheap price. Only a few will actually be like Vroom In The Night Sky. Why prevent games from coming on to the e-shop because you didn't enjoy them? Maybe someone else did? That's where the e-shop fails. The problem is that there should be a user review system and a new tab called the Hot New Games where new games with high user review scores get a highlight whilst the bad games drift slowly to the bottom.
Waifu Croc (1 month ago)
We’ll just see how it goes.
Ray01X (1 month ago)
You're acting like the PS4 & XboxOne don't have a shit load of shovelware on their consoles as well.
Rayman fan (1 month ago)
Quality over quantity
Laura Efron-Carter (1 month ago)
I thought people were saying there weren't ENOUGH games?? Jeez, make up your minds.
1 1 (1 month ago)
The Featured Tab. (Not to be taken as an annoying hater comment)
Vanduop McHoover (1 month ago)
Couldn't they use their "Nindies" initiative to get around this, quality control the games themselves and give the great ones a place in it's own "Nindies" category. That way the goal for indie developers wouldn't simply be to get on the Eshop but on that section of the Eshop, and if your game is good enough to make it into that section whether you're an unknown developer or not you'd be rewarded with the kind of sales these Indie classics have been generating recently.
Pikogu (1 month ago)
If they start pushing for 30 games a week, you gotta start doing the work for us and making top 5 or top 10 indie games in a weekly format. I would love to watch those videos.
jaguar_15 jaguar_15 (1 month ago)
Pikogu that would be great.
Ezra Allen (1 month ago)
That shareholder clearly pays zero fucking attention to Nintendo's action if he had to ask that question. You know, Nintendo? The guys who show off indies in every fucking direct possible? Nintendo, who fucking coined the term "Nindies" years ago because of how hard they were pushing them?
The Trollscout (1 month ago)
indie game + Nintendo = more money for them
TheFroggyFellow (1 month ago)
I agree. It's going to be hard to tell which games are actually worth it. I thought there was already too much games.
Furkan Karsandi (1 month ago)
TheFroggyFellow That's the problem with the e-shop though isn't it.
Andreas Andersson (1 month ago)
I think the main issue is that the eshop is such a mess to navigate in it's current form. Letting us navigate through more categories it will be much eaiser to find what you want
John Calcano (1 month ago)
The last home console system that had a flood of crappy shovel ware games was the Atari 2600 and look how that ended. And how ironic that Nintendo came to the gaming world by doing some quality control on gaming with the NES so they dont have to repeat Atari's epic failure.
Eric Shabetai (1 month ago)
Isn't this great for curators though? You guys (Youtubers) literally make money for telling us which are worth our time?
Indy K (1 month ago)
implementing rating system, more enhance search system in the eshop and probably some best seller Indie category in the eshop as well.
WarriorOfWriters (1 month ago)
Remember the "abundant" third party support Wii got? A mountain of bargain bin fodder. Don't repeat this mistake with indies. And lock in genuine commital support from big developers; Bandai Namco, Capcom, Ubisoft, EA. Why can't we get the definitive edition games from the last console generation? Eg Mass Effect Trilogy and AC Ezio Collection?
? GRIMPACHI (1 month ago)
This video concept is weird. So instead of having choice of what to buy you rather Nintendo make it for you ? Instead of letting as many games as possible ,outside of broken products or games used for back door hacking, u rather Nintendo limit consumer options. It's funny cause Nintendo out of all the companies need as many games as they can get. Add every time Nintendo was on top u notice they let a shit ton of games of all types on the system. Nes, Snes, Wii, and their handhelds. And before u say the seal of quality, that was a gimmick that amounted to nothing as plenty of games on the low end of the scale got on the systems some were even broken
Mateo (1 month ago)
Exactly what you said happened to PC players. I loved indies, even way back on 360, but in 2012/13idh, I'd buy and play any indie that looked interesting on Steam cause everything I played was good, even early access stuff. Now, I barely touch them on Steam and mostly resent them. In fact I barely even play PC at all. Not only are the top indies light years better than they use to be, but there is 30 times as much indies being dumped, but very few are that great. Switch has been getting over 10 games a week, and maybe half the time there is at least 1 indie that isnt horse shit, and usually it's something I already played. I didn't start playing indies again til I got EA Access and played Unravel, and then Game Pass where I now play fun weird games, and can enjoy them since not dumping $20 on a pile of trash just cause on sale. I already feel Switch is being infected, and gonna turn people off, then again Steam did the card system which is abused. Pray Nintendo doesn't do that card shit.
Jesse Dohmen (1 month ago)
That's choice overload. If there is too much to offer, people are not going to buy anything.
ReignPlaysGames (1 month ago)
Don't PANIC! Beatem Ups will tell us what games are the best and which games WE HAVE TO HAVE.(sarcasm heavily implied) ---- omg i was typing this and then you said it. weird.
Diphrael (1 month ago)
The vast majority of indie developers make poor products. I almost did not buy a Switch because of the shovelware / phone ports. Please god Nintendo, don't go down this path.
If that happens possibly I would just look for them on Steam (that store is flooded with trash but it has pretty good features to discover good games) and then check if they have a Switch version.
infernape91 (1 month ago)
Poor Beatemups. having to sift through a hundred shit games to find a couple decent ones
Ev'ixyn (1 month ago)
It is now the Wii 2.0 :P
You[']r[e] wrong (1 month ago)
I would even go further and call it semi Steam.
Ev'ixyn (1 month ago)
ziggyrules0489 Hmm, you do know that the Wii was full of shovel ware games and it seems as the switch is no different now.
ziggyrules0489 (1 month ago)
Ev'ixyn don't be retarded
Davis (1 month ago)
Lol what happened to the nintendo seal of approval
ZeroVitz (1 month ago)
Let's use the forbidden word. As a Hardcore gamer deluxe DX, I really do not mind, and I disagree. I think with the directs, the news channel on the switch, the features tab, the videos on the Nintendo's YouTube channel and my own sources i won't be missing a great game that I personally enjoy. I actually find quite amazing the wild west environment, everything is welcome but only the strongest will survive. For me it's imposible to think a great game like Shovel Knight, Hollow Knight, etc, will get buried with the trash. Besides we have to realistic, checking every game manually is almost imposible in terms of logistics, Valve is not doing it because they're lazy or because it's impossible (or at least financially viable for a company). If I had to choose between 3 great Indies a week vs 3 great, 5 good and 20 trash ones. I prefer the last one. Nintendo is gonna become steam 2.0? hahaha they wish. As long they keep making new ways to discover good games and make sure every game is playable, I am happy with This sea of games. P.d: Real casual players are gonna be sticking to AAA to begin with, so meh. P.D.D: Engrish
Richard Metric (1 month ago)
FUgamecrue mention you. You mentioned Beatemups. Now I need beatemups to mention FUGamecrue 😂
Yousef AL-Dulaijan (1 month ago)
A lot of games for Nintendo switch
Yousef AL-Dulaijan (1 month ago)
Awesome
Random NPC (1 month ago)
So, now GoG is the only gaming platform with any kind of curation? That's ironic.
Adam Coleman (1 month ago)
Just add a rating system?
Furkan Karsandi (21 days ago)
Cutie & Friends Adventures Why? You don't like it when people review games?
Adam Coleman Hell no!
Furkan Karsandi (1 month ago)
Adam Coleman Just this. People make something big out of something so small
GlintingBlur (1 month ago)
I pretty much only play Nintendo and Indie games (with a *few* exceptions). So I'm okay with this. I hope Switch gets more AAA 3rd party games, but I'm not really going to buy very many of them at all.
logicalfundy (1 month ago)
To be fair to Steam, they have quite a few ways to surface good games even though the platform has a large volume of games overall. Nintendo's e-shop on the other hand is nowhere near ready for that kind of volume.
Zcskizombie (1 month ago)
I think it’s to many games. I’m just a kid so I don’t have a lot of money to spend. I still haven’t gotten shovel knight. 30 games a week would just suck, because when I am about to get a game I want to know which ones are good and which ones are complete trash
Zcskizombie (1 month ago)
Do you and beatemups know each other?
Keenan Graziano (1 month ago)
couldnt tell if he was dissing woods or complimenting him. Regardless I love both channels
Connor Southern (1 month ago)
It would be nice if the eShop had an Indie section for games. Because I know there are people that love playing cheaper indie games and they'd love to be able to browse especially for them. But there are also people like me, who prefer AAA games, and hate having to browse through the overcrowded shop.
Daniil Filippov (1 month ago)
It's true. I'm already tired of searchin' something good in this garbage can, that Eshop has become.
SCM Gaming (1 month ago)
Your voice sounds more deep, and professional...
jaguar_15 jaguar_15 (1 month ago)
SCM Gaming yeah
V IE (1 month ago)
Trial and error leads to better results
ice (1 month ago)
Adding 20-30 games a week would only work if there was some sort of rating system, where if a game underperforms or gets several negative ratings in a short period, it's booted off of the eshop and the dev gets blacklisted for making something that people doesn't like. Without any quality control, the Switch eshop will end up looking like the Android Play store, and everyone will suffer.
Will Wunsche (1 month ago)
King Me Jumpman tbf app stores get +100-200 apps PER DAY so I doubt it will be that bad. But probably a little worse than PS4 which gets 20 new games per week
Retro Soul (1 month ago)
Fully agreed. The judgment of the new president is already worrying me, there isn't even a way to rate the game either from what I've heard.
mini craft (19 days ago)
hey, he technically isn't the president of the company yet
Shane Meyer (1 month ago)
I just hope they draw the line at the steam hentai visual novels, like I get “oooohhh nnnnooo censorship!” But buying porn on a Nintendo console feels out of place.
mini craft (19 days ago)
it's already happened man
FuzzyRegirock (1 month ago)
am i the only one who doesnt care for indie games
caio lima viana (1 month ago)
BeatEmUps: TOP 10 SWITCH GAMES I'M ADDICTED THIS LAST HOUR
You[']r[e] wrong (1 month ago)
Mark the Geek: *2358 games on his Switch*
Taylor Bowne (1 month ago)
It's a nice idea but your idea is pretty out there. A more detailed and user rated eShop would helpany of these issues. If Nintendo decided to start picking and choosing what's good or not, we'll have a NINTENDO SEAL OF QUALITY debacle all over again. It would drive developers away. There's a difference between wanting the eShop to be easier to navigate and blocking crappy games.
A - Kuma (1 month ago)
Ugh, I'm so fuckin tired of indie games. I'm sorry I'm not trying to discredit the good one's but shit like this used to be relegated to websites like Kongregate or ArmorGames. So many people are trying to cash in on indie games and just oversaturating the market. Indie games should go back to where they started, on indie game websites. I want to see actual, full fledged games, not a billion of these $2-$20 micro experiences.
ice (1 month ago)
A - Kuma This is what I'm saying, plus people are overrating them since they're made by small teams. From my experience, indie games are rather shallow on average.
Dysth Ymia (1 month ago)
Switch Eshop is slowly turning into a cheap whore with zero standards, like Steam :3
Hash Slinging Boi (1 month ago)
it is borderline spam, for real
Instant Noodles (1 month ago)
I'm looking for the game that was shown at the end of the video. Can anyone tell me what the title is?
likethepear (1 month ago)
All indies are 100% crap.
gets0410 (1 month ago)
Already knew this... just few months since the Switch's release. It's just people are suckers for casual games. (sigh)
angle galves (1 month ago)
I like the celeste music in the background
Muffin Man392 (1 month ago)
nintendo needs to curate the eshop better
Maxwell Alioth (1 month ago)
This been happening for awhile now...idk why it's concerning now.
backup368 (1 month ago)
I can't disagree any more. Taste is a thousand percent subjective. Your idea of a good game is completely different from mine. There are some consumers that don't care to play the "best" games. Games like Hollow Knight don't interest me, and I know there are other consumers that feel the same way. There are people looking for other games and don't care that they're "shovelware". They'll likely enjoy these games far more. With social media as relevant as ever now, and word of mouth another means of communication, why can't consumer use these means to recommend certain games that they enjoy to others rather than that be Nintendo's job? What if I don't want to play Hollow Knight, then what?
Alex Franco (1 month ago)
We need a rating system that becomes available after a set of prerequisites are met as to avoid people mass down voting a product for unrelated reasons
Darkzeroprojects (13 days ago)
In a way it would do just as much harm to some games.as the most popular voted will still overshadow the good,and also there are those who bring up a badly made game just to troll.
backup368 (1 month ago)
Do you go to a store that tells you "Don't buy our products"?
Blue haired lawyer (1 month ago)
Alex Franco like if you buy the product you can review it
Science101 (1 month ago)
If they are quality I am okay with it. I'm sure not all of them will be. I've seen a lot of trash in the eshop
Shinra (1 month ago)
Too many indie games. More high production titles into the mix please!
Cappy 22 (1 month ago)
Nintendo *going in deep*
Nic De Houwer (1 month ago)
Celeste, Hollow Knight, Blossom Tales. Buy these, for sure. One indie a month. No need for 120 games a month.
John Bucher (1 month ago)
Im surprised there’s no ratings on the e shop. That would help categorize the bullshit from the quality
cerda24 (1 month ago)
I WANT GAMECUBE GAMES !
Maximilian Behrens (1 month ago)
yeah my only concern is the shop itself. it could be a little more user friendly (KATEGORIES!!) oh and some buyerfeedback would be cool (ratings and reviews)
Mitchell Baker (1 month ago)
It doesn't matter how many there are. Anyone with any sense doesn't just skim through the lists and pick one that sounds like they'll like it. They google stuff like 'good metroidvania/puzzle/roguelike/etc game on the eshop' and end up watching channels like this to find out. Or reading forums or blogs. Or when one is suggested simply googles eg 'Hollow Knight review'. That immediately comes up 9.4/10 ign.com 92% PC Gamer 9/10 Steam... yeah I'll probably get that. If you're really particular you'll get it on Steam, play a little, get your refund, and if you liked it *then* get it on the eshop (no refunds). This whole idea of too much choice is really quite childish. Choice is good.
Snipe M.D (1 month ago)
Did anyone notice how the *_"Official Nintendo Seal of Quality"_* was changed to simply the *_"Official Nintendo Seal"_* ?
Shrek XtraLarge (1 month ago)
1 word. MOM HID MY GAME.
Shrek XtraLarge (1 month ago)
10 words. WRONG
Lil tay fan boy (1 month ago)
Shrek XtraLarge nvm that’s 5 words
Shrek XtraLarge (1 month ago)
4 words. ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT.
Lil tay fan boy (1 month ago)
Shrek XtraLarge that’s 4 words
LuchaChub Sanderson (1 month ago)
I feel we live in an age where if a platform is filled with shit. people who do buy it can tell others not to. same with the good ones one quick google search is all it takes the ones that are good will leave mark I’m sure
Crippling Depression (1 month ago)
Where is the king of cards update for shovel knight :/
Joe Munger (1 month ago)
Yeah, Steam and Valve are in trouble for sure. /s People are aware of the good indies. They are either in the Nindie Showcases or they are known commodities. If they were heavily curating people would be bitching that Nintendo should let us decide what games are good.
RegiSwitch (1 month ago)
asset flips ahoy
Stefano Gallo (1 month ago)
Critically acclaimed section or player’s choice. A rating system. Very easy fixes.
DippyDopBros. (1 month ago)
Another great video by a great content creator. Great Video!
Dante Segerdahl Mägi (1 month ago)
This is very concerning. me and 3 other developers are in the early state in developing a new game but after after this idk if we want to make a port to the switch this is ore first game so we don’t have a lot of money so now I think we will invest in other ways
Isaiahmag (1 month ago)
Welcome to the eShop where we mostly have mobile game ports.
Manuel Thompson (1 month ago)
Isn't this how the Atari failed! Absolutely nothing wrong with quality control and high standards. The Indies that became million sellers are million sellers because they're quality.
Manuel Thompson (1 month ago)
Skullomadness Gracias
Skullomadness (1 month ago)
Manuel Thompson That comparison works here.
Haruhi Suzumiya (1 month ago)
Manuel Thompson that was AAA games being trash tier like ET
Iron monkey magic (1 month ago)
Yeah I’ve feared this for a little while now. The eshop is already getting cluttered with trash games smh. I really hope Nintendo fixes this somehow. To many trash indies will definitely turn me off from them completely
Anther Panther (1 month ago)
If the indies don’t have battle royals then they’re trash.
criticalhard (1 month ago)
Anther Panther They're always trash tho.
Dysth Ymia (1 month ago)
lmfao i almost thought you were serious
master zat (1 month ago)
Nintendo’s quality control on indie games was the reason I bought the longest 5 minutes and ittle dew 2. Ittle dew 2 is a great game and i’m glad I bought it, but now with 30 indie game coming out a week i’m Hesitant to buy indie games on the switch.
Cheezy Charizard (1 month ago)
The eShop already has a bunch of garbage on it. More games means potentially more of that. I know we can't have a "Hollow Knight" release every week, but I would love better quality control.
I hope we don't get to the point where we real bad shovelware games like the wii did. Fire placing Remastered sounds horrible...
Chris P Bacon (1 month ago)
What ever happened to the "Nintendo seal of quality"
Josh Walker (1 month ago)
It's a double-edged sword, of course there's bound to be quite a few lower quality titles, but there's also tons of indie gems getting released on the platform like Shovel Knight, Celeste, Runbow, Crawl, FAST RMX, Owlboy, Enter the Gungeon, Golf Story, Gunvolt, Hollow Knight, Pocket Rumble, Shantae, etc. I'd of course prefer quality over quantity at the end of the day though.
Koopa Troopa Poopa (1 month ago)
I like this idea, but all they have to do is keep off the really stupid games. It's not that hard!

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