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Igor Wojtyna (4 hours ago)
Its superior to tng because it's a ripoff of Babylon 5
AussieBlokeGordo (8 days ago)
My favourite ST series, I enjoyed the others but the characters and politics in DS9 were just better
A O (9 days ago)
Hit the nail on the coffin, loved your review. DS9 did serialization about as well as you possibly could. It perfectly balanced the main story arcs that were supported by strong supporting story arcs and interpersonal/character development episodes. In the Pale Moonlight is by far my all-time favorite episode. It's DS9 in a nutshell, that the world isn't black and white. But tons of grey. And Dukat, possibly one of the greatest TV villains of all time.
Peter Burnett (9 days ago)
another pos series.
Henny Zhi (15 days ago)
If your not already a fan, there is this awesome YouTuber named Razorfist whose currently going through all the episodes giving color commentary about the series in general. Just look up "Depths of Deep Space Nine". It's really good stuff.
Tara N. (17 days ago)
Nailed it.
Round House (18 days ago)
Please do an analysis of Far Beyond the Stars, many people today have fallen for the same track the pah-wraiths tried to play on Sisko.
Lady Kilgore (20 days ago)
Thank you so much for this review! DS9 is my favorite Star Trek of them all, and I've seen ALL of them, excluding Discovery, which I don't consider actual Star Trek. The deep layered complex characters, the heavy gritty themes, the arcing expansive story lines, and the phenomenal acting all cement this as the pinnacle of Star Trek potential realized. I loved it when I first saw it in my late teens but now that I'm (MUCH) older, it's only gotten better with time. I love that the villains were actual believable people, both complex and tragic. No one felt like an archetype or a cut-out. I genuinely cared about these people and felt the emotions that came with their ups and downs. My biggest complaint with the show was that the ending felt very rushed for all of the build-up, mainly the resolution of the Sisko/Dukat, Pah Wraith/Prophets story line. It really could have been served better with a bit more time and oomph spent on that particular climax. Still, the series delivered on everything else so well that I count that as a nit-pick. I still love this show deeply. It might be not just my favorite Trek show, but my favorite sci-fi show of all time.
Emma Lloyd (25 days ago)
make Star Trek great again!
Marilee Stetson (27 days ago)
Good review. So it turns out that Rick Berman, Michael Piller and Paramount plagiarized (stole is such a harsh word) Babylon 5 producer J. Michael Staczynski's concept and turned it into Deep Space 9. That being said, DS9's execution both technically and dramatically was far superior.
Danny Morano (27 days ago)
My thoughts on DS9: IT SUCKED!
Schwatvogel (28 days ago)
I used to consider the first season slow and boring but recently I reevaluated it. While there are indeed a few weak episodes ('The Storyteller' perhaps being my least favourite) it is nevertheless a vital part of the season, as most of it is concerned with world-building and setting up story-arcs. Indeed, each of the first couple of episodes following the Pilot is dedicated to one of the Main Characters.
Joseph McDermott (29 days ago)
When comparing DS9 with TNG there's one thing you neglect to focus on and that is TNG was pure exploratory themed sci-fi whereas DS9 was a political drama.
David MacDowell Blue (30 days ago)
DS9 is currently my fave TREK. Not perfect (nothing is) but superior to pretty much all others. But I want to rant a tiny bit. We are told explicitly the Ferengi culture is all about profit, Klingon about honor in war, Romulan about ruthless winning, Vulcan about self control through logic, etc. These are all explored in the franchise to various degrees. But the Bajorans--whose homeworld a series spent seven whole years as the virtual location of a series--never ever came so alive. We are told they are all about their religion--but even now I can tell you almost nothing about their religion other than they worship the Prophets (which is about as useful as understanding the Middle East by being told "they worship Allah" and nothing else). DS9 explored Cardassians and Ferengi superbly, while we got to know quite a lot more about the Romulans and Klingons (plus of course the Founders, the Vorta, the Jem'Hadar). But what can you genuinely tell me about the Bajorans or their religion? Did they believe in an afterlife? I know that answer for Ferengi and Klingons. How do Bajorans view family and marriage? Again, I know that about Ferengi, Klingons and Cardassians. Do they have a concept of sin or something similiar and if so what is it? Yet again, we know the answer regarding Ferengi, Klingons and Cardassians as well as Vulcans. These are the building blocs of a culture, of a world view. The only interesting detail we ever learned about the Bajorans is that they used to have a caste system just before the Cardassian invasion--and that they has a starfaring civilization a long, long time ago. Interesting hints to be sure, about whom we learned nothing more in seven years. As to their faith--the thing Bajorans were supposed to hold central to their entire lives--essentially nothing. What the hell is a Pah? I simply don't know. What did the Pah-Wraiths want? I know what the Shadows wanted on B5, what the Dominion wanted, what the Klingons and Cardassians and Ferengi want. I know pretty much why the Borg did what they did. But these super important Pah-Wraiths, the devils of the Bajoran religion? No idea. Except they hate the Prophets and Bajor for some reason. Why? No one even bothered asking this question! So it wasn't even presented as a mystery, one perhaps beyond our ken to comprehend! It was totally unexplored. The Prophets at least seemed alien but with some kind of strange agenda. They were cool. But Winn--a religious fanatic who functioned as a villain in the show over and over again. What was her ideology, other than personal power? What did she or Bereil or Kai Opaca believe in? These are three major religious figures among the Bajorans--two of them the equivalent of the Pope/Dalai Lama here on Earth. Yet what was their faith? I have no idea. Because in seven years the show never asked that question. Their faith was a general, generic, unspecific semi-mysticism, sort of maybe. BSG explored the religion of the Colonies and of the Cylons. We know about Klingon and Ferengi religious beliefs. Yes, this is in keeping with Gene Roddenberry's well-known total dismissal of religion as nothing but superstition--except that is not any kind of an excuse. JMS, who created B5 is an atheist, but he explored the religious beliefs of cultures in his show. George R.R.Martin is also an atheist, but different faiths in GAME OF THRONES certainly inform cultures and the people who belong to those cultures. At its best DS9 explored in dramatic (and sometimes comedic) fashion clashes of cultures, as well as internal conflicts of characters struggling with living up to their own ideals. This never happened with the Bajorans because there IS NO BAJORAN CULTURE. Nothing. Without that, you cannot have those kinds of stories. So when we see stories about Bajor, it is entirely generic or vague or totally uninformed by the characters involved being Bajoran. Kira's whole story arc, for example, never ever depended on anything unique to her being Bajoran. If she had been (for example) Trill or Acamarian or any other alien-species-of-the-week that happened to have undergone conquest by the Cardassians, nothing would be different. Now imagine how her story would have been different if she and her people were Klingon. Or Vulcan. Sorry for the length of this but it bothers me. Bothered me then and does now.
Sovek (1 month ago)
DS9 has been and always WILL be my favorite of the DS9 series for a multitude of reasons. DS9 had elements of humanity and wrote a story about however noble and peaceful a civilization (or government) it WILL find itself at war at some point. The Dominion war was really gritty at times but it did display just what happens when a government focuses all of its funding for scientific or social programs, it will be woefully unprepared for any conflict. When the Dominion War did kick off in earnest the federation were loosing, badly. Entire fleets wiped out, millions of casualties and numerous core systems lost to Dominion Soldiers. The only thing that kept the federation alive (literally) was the intervention of the Prophets in keeping Bajor safe. This bought them time to cripple white production, destroy shipyards and ultimately bring the Romulans into the war (through a not very moral method of doing so)
Ken T. (1 month ago)
We apparently saw the same show in DS9. Spot on!
Moff Xanatos (1 month ago)
TOS is hard to compare with the others, but DS9 >> TNG >>>>>> VOY >> ENT
odisseus ithaca (1 month ago)
and the "Captain" didnt start as a Captain but a Commander
Shawn Lion (1 month ago)
I think people are finally coming around and seeing DS9 as a diamond in the ruff, and should be given a second chance.
Ludwig Schwarzwälder (1 month ago)
Also it is a shame DS9 are not available on bluray !
john Olson (1 month ago)
I really like your sci fi reviews. Have you seen the new Battlestar Galactica Syfy series? Pretty decent
Happy Bear (1 month ago)
I loved Babylon 5
Hans Zarkov (1 month ago)
earth is a flat plane covered by an impenetrable dome. the sun, moon, and stars are small and actually inside the dome. outside the dome is water. 'space' travel is a satanic lie intended to brainwash you into accepting the fallen angels as visitors from another 'planet' when they appear. but they were already here, trapped under the unbreakable dome
saramations (1 month ago)
Quark and Garark were my absolute favorite characters in DS9. Tho it has my least favorite doctor. Bashir didn't do much for me and I felt Worf was hamfisted in and he felt eh, the whole series, but they gelled well enough with everyone else. I hated how political the story it was (echoing your comments), but it really, really grew on me. The acting was spot on. Sadly, the ending felt rushed to me, everything worked, eh.
saramations (1 month ago)
btw thanks for the video <3
Dahveed (1 month ago)
I'm re-re-rewatching this, up to season 7 now. One of my favorite TV series of all time, not just sci-fi or Trek. You get so attached to the characters, and miss them when the series ends so much!
Vickers-mg (1 month ago)
I'm rewatching DS9 season 6 and 7 right now, again, for the the umpteenth time. It's my all-time favorite Star Trek series and one of the best series ever on TV for all the reasons you've listed.
TheLinc78 (1 month ago)
It’s crazy that this video came across my feed today because I’m rewatching DS9 at the moment. I’ve said for years that DS9 is the best Star Trek series. So many amazing characters.
Ae1v1ce (1 month ago)
This show is peak Star Trek, and I will fight anyone who says otherwise.
jacknife barca (1 month ago)
Personally, I liked DS9 better than TNG.
finkelzo (1 month ago)
It was on the air along with Babylon 5. I found the later superior, and skipped DS9.
gskibum (1 month ago)
I watched TNG, DS9, Voyager and Enterprise when they were originally broadcast. Loved them all but liked DS9 and Enterprise most. A couple of years ago I set about watching them all again. As of today I have finished TNG and DS9, and I'm in season 4 of Voyager. So far once again DS9 is my favorite. I'm looking forward to Enterprise.
Jerry Oswald (1 month ago)
Any episode with Cardassian involvement was sure to get the stations collective blood pressure jacked up. I loved what those pompous, narcissistic schemers brought to the show.
MinnesotaUnited FCFan (1 month ago)
DS9 was a totally different series with story lines that almost didn't match the other Star Trek series. Most of the story took place aboard the space station itself. This little bit of everything including politics also made this story different. DS9 receives an A+++ as a result.
David Mcmahon (1 month ago)
Always thought it was the closest to the original series best beat points.  Kirk would have tried punching Q too!Can't wait for your review of Lost in Space that Netflix has released.  Myself, I gave it up after the 4th episode.
Aboveup (1 month ago)
Nice to see the best Star Trek get the love it deserves.
Brough Perkins (1 month ago)
Very excited for the new DS9 Documentary, I helped fund it and got my beloved deceased moms name in the credits. I love how much DS9 is having a revival right now. Do you play star trek online? June is the Ds9 "Victory is Life" expansion, and a lot of our beloved actors will be appearing in game. You should cover the game!
smudboy (1 month ago)
DS9 was a higher budget, but worse attempt at B5; nearly stealing the idea (if one looks up it's history.) Surely it has it's moments, but it also has near entire seasons of episodic Trek. Compare that to B5, and it only has few espidoes which are purely standalone. Each season of B5 built upon itself, and had the same themes of war, religion and tolerance, in a much tighter, dramatic style. JMS was simply that good.
Czab (1 month ago)
DS9 is the best Star Trek series in my opinion. But it totally ripped off Babylon 5. The creator of B5 first pitched his idea to Paramount which turned him down, but used his ideas in DS9. If you like DS9, then you definitely should watch Babylon 5.
Liam Scott (1 month ago)
I love all the treks but Ds9 is actually one of my least favourite star treks, half the characters were unlikable and badly acted and it didn't seem to get that good until after worf entered the show. People say that sisko was this dark, cool and badass captain. I say if you want dark and badass then Picard in first contact, archer vs the xindi and Janeway against any powerful enemy would be a better choice.Conservatives and anti SJWs also like him because "it was about his ability as captain and he never brought up the colour of his skin" which would be great if it was actually true, sisko actually made his blackness an issue multiple times. If you want a black character that doesn't mention being black then that will be laforge, mayweather, tuvok and Ohura. The dominion war was brilliant but most of the episodes had little or nothing to do with it. Garak and miles are probably my favourite characters of all star treks though.
Ed (1 month ago)
agreed, DS9 best of the star trek series, Enterprise was under rated and my 2nd favorite.
#Hollyhood (1 month ago)
Jason Bean (1 month ago)
A bit more on Naug would be appreciated.:)
Hazem A. A. M. Awad (1 month ago)
If I had to choose the best star trek show, I would pick DS9. Granted, I don't believe in "best star trek", they are all great in their own ways, including Discovery (which to me is the closest in tone and realism to DS9 than any other trek). Man, I loved every episode of DS9 and can remember vividly watching some of the iconic episodes for the first time.
inertia186 (1 month ago)
When are you getting on steemit?
Scottlp2 (1 month ago)
DS9 is the best ST and episodes eg In The Pale moonlight may be the best SF episode of any show ever. DS9 had dark moments and light moments one of the reasons for its greatness. If you haven't seen it, B5 is at least as good overall.
1906aldo (1 month ago)
Great commentary. I was one of those conservative TNG fans. I didn't like DS9,but eventually I gave it a chance and oh my god is it good. I like the slow pace in S1-2. Popular banter about show getting good only after introducing defiant, to me is kind of shallow. Post-occupation story arc at the beginning of the show is brilliant. Episode Duet is probably my favourite. And when you look at the whole show everything somehow comes full circle. It's a story about war. And a great one. It's like you said, TNG spinoff. It's like a prog rock concept album xD TNG is side A, DS9 being side B.
exexpat11 (1 month ago)
My only problem with DS9 was they stole the original idea from Babylon 5. It started the trend of a "War Arc". I do not know if it was planned from the 1st Session or just came about later. Now the "War Arc" is used when ideas are starting to run out of gas.
Gary Major (1 month ago)
Brilliant commentary on DS9. It is my favorite Star Trek too. It was the best. I am enjoying watching the reruns.
preshlock (1 month ago)
Garak is probably my favorite Star Trek character
Plowbeast (1 month ago)
The best part about Quark's monologue in "Siege of AR-558" is that in a later scene, he realizes that truth about innate savagery also applies to him when Quark has to backshoot a Jem'Hadar soldier and in that scene - there are no words. It's all in Shimerman's eyes.
Jonathan Haigon (1 month ago)
This line Quark says was the moment I realize that DS9 my favorite StarTrek show was not StarTrek... Because one of the points of StarTrek is human are now evolve beyond the flaw Quark mention and here we have normal human from 20 century. (Still my favorite sci-fi show) And Dumar was the character who grew up on me the most for the exact reason you mention. Thank for this awesome review!
Aaron Chandler (1 month ago)
As much as I love Q as a character, I'm glad he didn't show up on DS9 again. I like to think that's because Sisko put him in his place.
Fearless BLaZ (1 month ago)
Why was this show, so hard to accept at first, from so many? Was it, the network pseudo stealing Babylon creator premise, black Commander/Captain, format change, scale, or lack of major Gene Roddenberry involvement? Sadly, my own community has shown little respect, understanding, and celebration of this masterpiece, despite Mr. Avery Brooks. Funny tho, race was the last thing I cared about watching. I watched with my father, him filling me in on the history of the actors behind the characters. Old school, hard working, mostly Broadway performers. Not to ramble, but this show stands for education, seeking knowledge, history, love, hate, trust, honor, integrity, class. Being a fan of DS9, makes you FEEL superior in taste and quality. As if you made the one single greatest choice in life, by joining this cast, and taking the journey. What a ride.
Fearless BLaZ (1 month ago)
Nah, just plain, simple Garak.
Lowee Citizen (1 month ago)
DS9 was absolutely fantastic, but I personally hated the very last season. The conflict between the pah wraiths and the prophets taking center stage left a bad taste in my mouth, and Sisko basically being a prophet's kid was dumb. It was dumb that he dropped fucking everything to run off with the prophets at the end, including a wife he'd just married a few episodes prior, and a son he'd had the experience of watching his life fall apart over his disappearance in another timeline. All of that, and the very black and white nature of the pah wraith and the prophets' struggle felt like a big "fuck you" to everything that made the series so great in the earlier seasons. On top of that, I personally found Ezri Dax to be an absolutely unbearable character. They should have killed off the symbiont with Jadzia. Too many of the B plots in the last season were spent fleshing out this character I cared nothing about who just so happened to be the replacement for one I adored. TNG and Voyager were really spotty at times, but they both at least had fantastic endings. All Good Things... was perfection. Also Garak is the best character in the franchise, just sayin'.
RedClaw87 (1 month ago)
If someone asks me about my favorite Star Trek Series, I answer with TOS. If I'm asked what the best Star Trek Series is I always say DS9.
exexpat11 (1 month ago)
It was down to the bolts, working class ST. Confined spaces, everyone had to do their job, with the spy intrigue of Texas Street Pusan Korea.
ken mayes (1 month ago)
Excellent Review!
DOHC2L (1 month ago)
I read these comments LOL. All you DS9 Fanboys trying so hard to pump up such a weak series like Star Wars fans who defend the latest crappy Star Wars movies.
DOHC2L (1 month ago)
DS9 was fucking weak. When ot launched the show was supposed to be about the crew rough-necking it with crappy tech (cardassian). The show eeked along with sub-par plots and weak character development. Then they added Worf and over-wrote the last 4 seasons. The show became the opposite of what it was intended to be... they way over-compensated with all aspects of the show which yes made it better but it also 'overcooked' it. Any scenes involving phaser battles with the Jem Hadar were cringy AF. The over-acting never went away in DS9 unlike TNG and Voyager. DS9 is overacted in all 7 seasons and the ending was terrible.... The Jem Hadar Armada just disappeared thanks profits after a full season of build-up.... terribly written conclusions to numerous half-written single-episode plots. It jumped the shark after DS9 took out the Klingon attack like it was the fucking deathstar. Fuck you Terry Farrell for bailing on the show. Dax shoulda been killed off... the replacement Dax was a terrible character. Grow some balls Jake or get the fuck off the show what good are you?
maxis2k (1 month ago)
I can't say DS9 is better than TOS or TNG. I feel like each of these shows did something the best. What I can say is that DS9 did what I usually prefer in TV shows. Serialized, ongoing stories, a strong focus on evolving characters and a well developed lore. Because of this, I often lean towards thinking DS9 is my "favorite". But again, I really can't say that. I think TOS had the best character dynamic and TNG did the episodic formula the best. And if I'm really being honest, my favorite part of the whole series is movies 1-6.
TREY RIVER (1 month ago)
Ds9 the trek downgrade of B5.. having said that it's still far better then most of next generation and all of Voyager. There were some likeable characters and it was kind of nice seeing Avery Brooks get to smile from time to time unlike his previous character of hawk. Oh and punching Q almost worth the whole series.
Maestro Drake (1 month ago)
Also, wtf is up with SJW Clarkson? I put my 2 cents on my own channel. Your turn!
Old Welsh Bloke (1 month ago)
Well said. I'm a huge DS9 fan. Loved the Dominion war, Garak and the bald Sisco. No homo!
exexpat11 (1 month ago)
Sisko morphed into his character on Spencer for Hire. Not that it was a bad thing. Great actor.
Caleb Fielding (1 month ago)
still cant hold a candle to babylon 5
exexpat11 (1 month ago)
It is like comparing an apple to a slightly different apple. Loved B-5 more that DS9 but DS9 wasn't all that bad.
Emperor Caligula (1 month ago)
Alas, they don't make series like this anymore.
dahelmang (1 month ago)
What ds9 best? No way dude so boring. The intro warns you how boring it will be, as does the fact they are on a space station, not exploring new planets. Such a soap opera, just like Arrow.
monkeymox (1 month ago)
DS9 was good, but not a patch on TNG - DS9's writing was more consistently of a higher quality, but it never reaches the same heights as TNG. Also it was too much of a departure from the values of Trek. Having said that, it is probably my second favourite show in the franchise. If only Brooks could act, though...
Ferb (1 month ago)
The first time I saw an episode of Deep Space Nine, it was the episode that was all about a Vulcan being completely unlike any Vulcan ever by getting some sort of perverse pleasure out of showing he was better than Sisko at baseball, and Sisko having the self control of a toddler and letting himself get completely bent out of shape by being beaten at a game. I avoided watching it again for years after that. Eventually I tried watching the show from the beginning and found it was mostly very good. But whoever wrote that baseball episode should be deeply ashamed of themselves!
Coulter (1 month ago)
I loved Gul Dukat, but they stole a lot from Babylon 5.
David Armstrong (1 month ago)
Definitely my favorite Star Trek show. Much deeper than the others.
Nards Of Steel (1 month ago)
DS9 was the shit. Two of the greatest characters ever were on that show. Garrack and Quark.
K S (1 month ago)
I like DS9 quite a bit, even though it's a pale copy of Babylon 5. B5 was great enough that even a pale copy was very good in it's own right. The mixing of B5's universe into the Star Trek universe worked much better than it had any right to.
BelieveIt1051 (1 month ago)
Sleep Space Nine. Soap opera in space. Out of all the DS9 episodes I've seen, none of them have been interesting. DS9 was a departure from the Star Trek style. Even the sets looked nothing like Star Trek. I also found it quite pretentious for a show that didn't involve anyone or anything important. The characters were all lame (except Garak and Quark), and the show even needed TNG characters to help carry it. DS9 also ruined said characters in the process, basically making Worf bisexual. O'Brien wasn't that interesting to begin with, so not much harm there. Q was ruined. Turned into a joke. Even Lwaxana Troi's annoying character got worse. And let's examine the "arcs". Wormhole worshipers, an intergalactic war we never see any consequences of, occasionally interrupted by alternate reality DS9. This show was a really bad joke, and was the WORST Star Trek of them all (not counting Enterprise or Discovery which I consider non-canon).
Stefan Andrzejewski (1 month ago)
They say that the members of TNG used to call it Deep Throat 9 and that it was a terrible place to work.
garvindreis (1 month ago)
Ds9 was different, imo, than any other star trek series for the sole reason of it being on a station. Unlike ship life, where duty is held as a constant, fratranizing was a minimum, and life was routine. On the station, it was different. Rules were less strictly regulated. Life was more relaxed. Staff had relationships with visitors to the station, and seeing as there was a constant flow of visitors, it happoned alot. I also liked how they showed something the rest hadn't. War. We see what the federation does when threatened, more than just a single conflict.
The Joshua Bell Show (1 month ago)
I did not like Star Trak Discovery so full of Far left and SJW and Feminist propaganda
The Joshua Bell Show (1 month ago)
Are you going to review Stargate Universe
The1AmazinAsian (1 month ago)
What's the intro song?
Orc Man (1 month ago)
DS9 was without a doubt the best Trek show. The original series was good but didn't last very long. TNG was way to candy coated for my taste. Everything was happy and shiny and Federation values ruled the day. YEESH!!!!!. DS9 was in many ways the anti-Trek Star Trek show. It didn't show the Federation as the benevolent do gooders of the universe. It showed flaws and it's characters didn't always fall back on the prime directive as an easy way to get out of a problem. The characters were far more developed than those in TNG were. Garack and Quark were my two favorite Trek Characters of all time because they weren't the typical cardboard cutout Trek characters that were in every Trek show before it. Both of these guys would turn on you in a second if it was in their best interest to do so. DS9 still comes on in syndication where I live and I watch it every night.
I love DS9, always my fevorive character is Garak and Martock
N7Mith (1 month ago)
The only aspect I was not a fan of, was Sisko. The acting was lacking, and he was just not really well written in my opinion. But the show is my favorite of all ST shows, closely followed by Voyager.
MrMegaPussyPlayer (1 month ago)
4:07 Also might be modeled after Erich Honecker (east Germany politician/head of state) Famous quote (when his oppressive regime was about to end): _"But I do love you all"_ for details about Honecker see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_Honecker (I'm not writing the details down, and hope that page is fairly accurate)
Andrew Conneely (1 month ago)
By far the best star trek Major Kira singing fever 😍😍😍
Peter Smith (1 month ago)
Litany of Fury (1 month ago)
One of the best series. 🖖DS9
Lorne Hulett (1 month ago)
I always felt that the slower start to DS9 was a good thing. It allowed for more growth potential for the characters as they learned more about themselves and their place in the universe.For example Picard is basically the same character from ep.1 season 1 as he is through the end of TNG, while Sisko goes from a man lost and thinking of leaving starfleet and VERY uncomfortable with his roll as the Emissary to embracing all of it and being one of the strongest characters in all of Star Trek.
Harrison11106 (1 month ago)
Gene Roddenberry (hope I spelled it right) probably wouldn't have liked the series all that much; hell Majel Roddenberry (Genes Widow) had said, more then once, that Gene would have despised the Dominion war arc. You forgot the character Morn/Mourn, a background character seen mainly in the 1st few seasons, but showed up in later ones once or twice. The joke/conceit with that character was that you never heard him say one word throughout the series entire run, but off camera the characters would say that he'd "never shut up", or just as you'd see him FINALLY talk, it would switch to another scene/set of characters doing something else. It was a great bit, & the show did it successfully for the entire run.
Timothy Mansker (1 month ago)
The Dominion War the Jem Hadar were ugly... The Die is Cast
Not Sane (1 month ago)
Wow, honestly thought I'd find a Razorfist comment here.
Derek Power (1 month ago)
Razorfirst/The Rageaholic has you covered on the depth side ... and by depth, I mean twenty minutes devoted to each and every episode of DS9. (As of writing this, he's still in S1 with the most recent episode being "The Forsaken", which actually gave some, dare I say, empathy to an irritating and grating character from a past programme.) Because of this and a subscription to Amazon Prime (Christmas gift from mum and da), I did a hardcore binge of DS9. I had seen about three seasons or so when it originally aired but then fell out of it (not due to the show's quality, far from it). I knew in very general terms what happened at key moments and thus there weren't too many surprises. But I definitely wanted to see how we got there ... and boy was I impressed. I love DS9 for pretty much the same reasons you stated. As you said, everyone in it was "finding their place in the universe". And because of this, there are all interesting people. Some I like more than others but I don't think there's a "bad" (bad in the sense of underdeveloped or weaker) chap in the bunch. From the standpoint of craft, this was definitely a writers' show *and* an actors' show as evidenced by the complex storytelling from the former and performance range from the latter. As this was probably the ST series that had the most encounters with the "Mirror universe" as well as high number of holosuite stories or time travel instances, I could see it was an excuse for the regular cast to "try out different roles". In a way, this paved the way for other programmes known for their writing and acting such as Boardwalk Empire and Breaking Bad. I've seen it said that this iteration of DS9 was the one that anticipated a post 9/11 world long before its catalyst could even be realised, let alone experienced. In fact, one of the best assessments of the Federation's big problem (which served as a beautiful setup for future conflicts) and it's delivered brilliantly and angrily by then Cmdr. Sisko in "The Maquis, Part II": "Do you know what the trouble is? The trouble is Earth-on Earth there is no poverty, no crime, no war. You look out the window of Starfleet Headquarters and you see paradise. It's easy to be a saint in paradise, but the Maquis do not live in paradise. Out there in the demilitarized zone all the problems haven't been solved yet. Out there, there are no saints, just people-angry, scared, determined people who are going to do whatever it takes to survive, whether it meets with Federation approval or not.". DS9, I think, is the one time in the ST universe where you have moments of self-awareness from Federation citizens and Starfleet officers that *maybe* - just *maybe* - we are worse than the problems we try to solve. Finally, you brought up the Bajorian politics and the like ... I think it was a great world building idea to know who these people are, where they've gone and what they've been through. It's another way to bring out all of those characteristics that make the programme so remembered and highly regarded. In a way, I see the stuff involving Bajor as a great analogue for nations and cultures shaking off oppressive governments (think eastern Europe or pockets of Asia and Africa) much like how the Federation and the Klingons served as an analogue for the Cold War.
Tachyon Tee (1 month ago)
What made Quark's critique on AR-558 so profound is that it was/is very much applicable to real life. That is how we are. Let the masses lose the creature comforts we're accustomed to. There will be blood. Civilization is only nine meals away from anarchy. DS9 "AR-558" and TNG's "Drumhead" are my favorite Trek episodes. So many things in those two episodes apply to the real world; the kinds of things that make you stop and think about the real world dilemmas humanity has to grapple with.
Brydon Sinclair (1 month ago)
DS9 is Trek at its best. Since then the quality has plummeted.
m e (1 month ago)
TNG was my favorite until I rewatched DS9 as an adult. TNG was the highlight of Trek popularity but DS9 was the height of Trek quality. Dukat and Garak alone make DS9 better then most shows.
Odysseus Rex (1 month ago)
I think everything you say about DS9 is true and valid. The problem is that is every aspect that you discuss, DS9 was overshadowed by Babylon 5. At the time, I only had so much time and, given the choice between the two, I watched B5. I caught the fist couple of seasons of DS9, but only a few of the later episodes. Maybe I will catch up on it on Netflix. This is the 21st century after all.
The Vegan Punk (1 month ago)
The Visitor was my favorite ep. In The Pale Moonlight is a close second.
El-ahrairah (1 month ago)
Yes, obviously DS9 is a TNG spinoff and not Voyager.
Nick Kastsaridis (1 month ago)
I'm what they call a semi track E I guess I like these face 9 and I I thought next generation was good the discovery situation I think stinks and all but the real question is on my mind and that is the rumor true that Deep Space Nine is coming back in 2019 and the guy who played on Harry Potter the red headed kid that was his name of Weasley or whatever it's called it's going to be the Sun or the nephew of the engineer that once was there if anyone has any information about this could you just scream it out I would really appreciate it it sounds pretty good so if anyone heard about this or you know please tell me if it's true or not cuz I tell you I really love the series and I would like to see how to go bring back the captain alright then thanks bye
Thorny Dig8 (1 month ago)
I'm a huge fan of DS9, it portrays the grittier side of the Federation love fleet, and Sisko is definitely the best Capt of the lot. I'm also a fan of Babylon 5, many hated it, but it was gritty and that made it interesting, plus the special effects of course.
*** *** (1 month ago)
I can't remember the title, but I think my favorite episode is probably the one where one of dukat's subordinates pretends to be him to stand trial for his crimes during the war... the episode had a lot of heart, even if it was a bit blunt in places, and it helped flesh out Kira's character arc by making her question her hatred of the Cardassians
P. Herrmann (1 month ago)
Dukat, Garak, Quark, Dax, Martok ....so many brilliant charismatic characters ...thats the true reason why this series is so awesome

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