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Pay Day (The Jimquisition)

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http://www.patreon.com/jimquisition http://www.thejimquisition.com http://sharkrobot.com/collections/jimquisition-merch Overkill has embodied its name when it comes to downloadable content for Payday 2, but its latest shenanigan is possibly the worst. After adding a microtransaction system to the game in an event that promised FREE updates, Payday 2 has become not just a source of community rage, but an exercise in corporate hypocrisy. This is a game I personally championed. I take its recent heel turn personally as well.
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??? ??? (11 days ago)
Why are you complaining about a paid advantage system in payday 2, the game is purely co-op and if a player had an advantage it would only help the rest of the squad, right? Don't get me wrong it's still a douchey thing to do, but it has it's upsides.
Gator Man (2 months ago)
Jims gotta get to a million!
Yooz (3 months ago)
Honestly I'd be fine if they had either the loot boxes or the countless DLCs, but the sometimes I get tired by the bombardment of messages that I should buy some additional content...
Zel G. (4 months ago)
3:19 - whaddaya know, a modern day Marie Antoinette
irllcd13 (4 months ago)
People call me a pessimist. That I am too negative. I tell them that I'm not doing it to be a dick. I wasn't born a pessimist. I was made into one by life and what I see around me. To quote Elim Garrak: "On the contrary, I always hope for the best. Experience, however, has taught me to expect the worst."
Bob Smith (5 months ago)
payday 2 has u describe it happened to me too, sad story indeed
erttheking (6 months ago)
Thankfully, Overkill seems to be turning things around.
KaidemonLP (6 months ago)
With the recent changes, making all future safes free and updating the console versions and making ultimate edition, what do you think now? Has your view changed?
iain burnham (7 months ago)
Was this and mass effect 3 the first case of gambling?
Lumadous (8 months ago)
Phone pops up notification for new Jim Sterling How the fuck is a video 2 years ago new? Still relevant, yes, but not new.
Looney Bird (8 months ago)
I like to imagine an intern or whoever being told to say no microtransactions then someone trips and falls on the "add microtransactions" button
MortifiedDumplin (8 months ago)
2 years later, the game seems to have turned around again, Overkill Studios can be a little dickish with sales, but still far better than any modern "Triple-A" game company these days (possibly due to being partially owned by the John Wick guys now?). The skins themselves do fuck and all that can't be done without a few hours in game, outside of that are the rare "statboost" skins, most of which are actually a disadvantage to use and the extremely rare, extra fancy "skins" that are almost entirely new weapons. Since then, every safe has been free, even the latest Crimefest safe.
Rex Remedy (8 months ago)
we have another name for video game industry in germany. we call it car industry.
Colin Bennett (8 months ago)
It's good now guys, don't worry. They're free now.
SuperArppis (9 months ago)
PS3 version of this game is bugged, the aiming acceleration is bugged at certain sensitivity settings and the game became unplayable for me. I am not surprised the new current gen versions are fucked as well.
Infinit_Phoenix (9 months ago)
A fun game, but slowly became poisoned by it's shitty devs. A real shame
Jordan Kelly (9 months ago)
"Start doing"? You mean "Keep doing?" Right?
Chronik Cough (9 months ago)
Thank god for Jim fucking Sterling son!
Ofree (10 months ago)
I'm not defending microtransactions, as I think they are a big problem in payday, and I don't play it anymore, but from what I remember, the lootbox skins just had attachements already on them, not exclusive attachments. Most players in the game have disposable ingame income for weapons and attachments, so while the safes can be seen as an unfair advantage, they are not a very good way to get said advantage, with buying the attachments you want being more effective. I may remember wrong, as I didn't play the game that much, but that is how I think it was.
Jon dow (11 months ago)
#FUCKkonami.
DovahPug (11 months ago)
This is WAY late but I'm not seeing many comments front and center about what's happened as of recent. After the FLUNK that was the Micro-transaction Crimefest, OVERKILL finally managed to properly take hold of the PAYDAY property from its parent company, STARBREEZE. Immediately afterwards all production of microtransaction-safes were halted, and all safes since have been 100% free to open and collect, being pure cosmetics with a high rarity of a minor stat boost dependant on the skin. The first safes to roll out during the Crimefest however, remained on the pay-to-drill system so as to not crash the game's steam market and piss a whole lot of paying customers off. And yes, while it is still to this day true that OVERKILL has a DLC problem, it seems to have finally come to an end, atleast for the time being. PAYDAY 2 recently had an event where the game was COMPLETELY FREE for 5 milllion players to take on Steam! 5 MILLION people got to take home a copy of Payday 2 all to themselves at no charge, and all DLC released went on a massive sale aswell. Now, Payday 2 comes with a potential bundle of The Ultimate Pack, including every single piece of DLC (not including those requiring other games to be in your steam library to function), aswell as the base game of course for a lowered price. On top of all that, we have been given a definitive promise that any and all future updates and content for PAYDAY 2 will be absolutely free. Which quite frankly leads me to believe that OVK is pursuing other projects for the time being while plotting out PAYDAY 3. I see this as OVERKILL's *successful* attempt to get themselves back into good graces with their community, and I will continue to get PAY-d for the foreseeable future because of it.
Random Stranger (11 months ago)
i can only buy payday 2 with the dlc not alone
Unlucky Magician (1 year ago)
OVERKILL IS STARTING TO WORK ON FREE DLC AMEN!
BipolarToast (1 year ago)
you need to make an update vid for this
Roeland666 (1 year ago)
so sad but so true. total DLC milking!!
JasperGaming (1 year ago)
you know.. if EA fucks up battlefront 2 with microtransactions... or more importantly the lack of galactic conquest, we should just fucking boycott them entirely
CelticBananas (1 year ago)
After they left 505 they got rid of it
Arian Auditore (1 year ago)
1 year later and Payday 2 is still suffering from this one mistake. No matter how hard they've tried to rectify it they've still lost a huge player base who wont be returning anytime soon.
htomerif (1 year ago)
Official press put out by the company saying there won't be microtransactions should be sufficient for a class-action suit, assuming it can be documented and it wasn't just one of the devs mouthing off. It would be like Chevy saying you get XM free for the life of any new car, then saying "nope, we're gonna start charging you for it." Just takes a law firm doing some prospecting in contract law to get things rolling.
Zech Evans (1 year ago)
This intro song gets on my tits every time I hear it. "WHYM NAWT LOIKE YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU"
Torchmanz (1 year ago)
I installed payday 2 as part of the free trial of xbox game pass. I uninstalled it after browsing the menus and seeing the HUGE amount of bullshit they sell. It's a joke and the game itself isn't that good. I couldn't be bothered to keep it even though I pretty much paid nothing for it.
Patterned Pike (1 year ago)
Overkill wasn't to blame here. Starbreeze made them do it. As soon as Overkill bought the full rights from Starbreeze they got rid of it.
Blacklight (1 year ago)
This is funny to listen to. Sinds at the Time of This comment overkill had removed drills for those safes from the system.
Hexagonal (1 year ago)
I thing jim went insane with the mlg virus at the start
ana vale (1 year ago)
jim cmon ignore the micros and play the game, plus jamesblack47 said 3 options they could go and they did the first option and at update 100 the safes dont require buying or the drops of drills, unfortunatly its the new safes from the biker one and ahead. heck they care about the community if they didnt they wouldnt help me fix my crashes and im an avid payday 2 player since summer of 2014 (i know the game came out in 2013) and the game is loved by many because the gameplay is fun. i know the micros were shit but IGNORE THEM JUST MOVE ON BECAUSE I WONT BUY MICROS EVEN THOUGH IM A TRY HARD but im a fuckin tryhard in certain situations like if the hosts PC is shit im not satisfied because that aint fair, anyways i have clocked 1500 hours and i suggest you seeing jamesblack47s videos
Chaython Meredith (1 year ago)
Terrible game, terrible graphics, terrible overpriced drops
aaron trapp (1 year ago)
It's PAYDAY motherfuckers!
northernCRICKET (1 year ago)
At one point I was considering picking the game up on a particularly generous sale, but upon seeing the egregious amount of DLC content I was immediately turned off of the game.
aaron trapp (1 year ago)
I buy all of the dlc with money I get from selling safes and skins. Most of it's under a dollar on sale.
Camp Master Noob (1 year ago)
Tried it for free on PC, not only is the game extremely mediocre (gameplay meh, and by God the framerates were shit) but the selling strategy is beyond awful. Just almost every gun is fucking DLC. The base game has ONE sniper rifle. There must be over a 100$ worth of DLC. What BS... And oh yeah I did get one of these dreaded safes. I'll never play the game again so I'm willing to give it for free to the first person who asks nicely.
Lankey Bastard (1 year ago)
Hey I got a job for you. Go break into a safe. And I'll pay you with a bunch of smaller safes. Hello?
Marlon Lopez Troya (1 year ago)
i wonder what does jim thinks of the game right now that everything has been clarified (this black market bullshit was 505 games' fault and they now don't have the license of payday 2) and right now the community/overkill themselves are redeeming themselves and no one i general wants to renember this ever happened
Phil (1 year ago)
One and a half year later this really hurts to see. The game has been flooded with skins and DLCs. I deinstalled the game with over 240 played hours and an infamy level I don't even remember.
mitsota101 (1 year ago)
Safes are free to open now, bee tee dubs.
RedFlameFox (1 year ago)
0:00 Sony Vegas
Slaughter Round (1 year ago)
I'm not sure if it was the playback or your recording but damn it looked like you were getting betwen 30 and 15 fps
Glycerin Ghost (1 year ago)
I can totally understand where you're coming from, having over 300 hours in this, hearing of micro transactions kinda hurt. But I was getting DLC fatigue and when I went to console for a bit, having vastly inferior versions with little to no support was another strike against them.
Cave Johnson (1 year ago)
Honestly I stopped playing Payday 2 when this crap dropped.
dying101666 (1 year ago)
What is your connection with shrimp?
Mr. Clean (1 year ago)
Hope Overkill do this not again this shit is worst then EA Ubishit or crapcom
Lou Couture (1 year ago)
Aaaand turns out it was 505's idea and that Overkill was forced to take the blame. They bought the franchise back and just removed micro transactions.
shardinhand (1 year ago)
i love this guy. He hilarious, keep up the good work jim.
dragonbloodjelly (1 year ago)
so you have to pay to open something you got for free?
Ganonbros (1 year ago)
3 simple letters... F O V
Ram Lrm (1 year ago)
Why had overkill f'ed up Payday 2? Same as killing floor 2? I am disappointed.
The Zachvolt (1 year ago)
Ah, watching older Jimquisitions before the 3rd Annual Crimefest to pray that Overkill doesn't fuck up again.
Enclave (1 year ago)
And now no more drills. Shame on them for putting them in the first place though. But I guess good job for removing them?
teeonezee (1 year ago)
I joined Steam last night and I seen games and DLCs for over $150.oo like brah, who tf pays $100+ for DLC and games!?!
Chaos inc. (1 year ago)
Idiots pay, greedy gits profit off those idiots.
Jedi Knight (1 year ago)
It's gotten worse with the addition of skin workshop. Like more skins was something we even needed on Steam.
BallZzD33p (2 years ago)
payday 2 on pc was amazing !!!had me dreaming about robbing banks
Juni Post (1 year ago)
jim you GOD of a man. it happened. PAYDAY2 HAS NO MICROTRANSACTIONS! WE DID IT PEOPLE WE DID IT! WE WON A BATTLE! THE BIG COMPANIES CAN BE BEATEN! WE CAN WIN WE ARE GREAT! WE CAN DO THIS! FOR OUR WALLETS AND A GOOD GAMES INDUSTRY! CHARGE!
LifeAndLemmons (1 year ago)
Randy Williams they can bleed we can kill them
ChainsGoldMask (2 years ago)
I loved this video
Kalgert (2 years ago)
Hey, would anyone be kind enough to tell me if the game is any better now? Even if it has this uhh... Unpleasant situation about it.
Ironman1o1 (1 year ago)
Microtransactions are (mostly) gone. All new safes can be opened for free, but any dropped pre U100 still needs a drill, though they no longer drop. If you don't have any before U100, you'll never get them.
Jet Edge (2 years ago)
i like how the game of the year edition doesnt even include a lot of the dlc
Celeste (2 years ago)
So for the sake of revisiting the new update pretty much reduces the microtransactions to being practically vestigial since safes that require drills are no longer dropped and all safes dropped now and in the future is opened for free
Bear Grills (2 years ago)
Ok, from watching your videos and just opinions of people i think i got the formula for good dlc: first, release the game itself with all the content you have normally, and wait to make dlc. Then, it depends on the kind of game: if it's single-player focused, add new missions in good quantity, making them interact with the story and explaining more but without locking the ending in it like azura's wrath did, and maybe add some content and skins, but without making them op. I still haven't bought fallout 4 but i heard far harbor dlc is a good example, giving you an enormous new region with new missions, characters and gear (btw not sponsored). If it's multiplayer-focused, add skins that can be used in all the maps, plus some new game modes, maps and guns, but maybe if you buy a dlc with guns make it so that you can use those guns only in matches with other people that have them, to avoid free-to-play vs pay-to-win situations. Also, no preorder exclusives, no gamestop exclusives and try to balance content and price.
Adam Bugdog (2 years ago)
Well Overkill had the guts to remove the microtransactions and made them boosters able to be picked up, and made Drills free and safes but they are REALLY rare...Well the Drills are, I got a Dallas Drill the week before. They also apologized so I can forgive them.
Papa Burny (2 years ago)
Huh... TF2 in a nutshell now
Oscar Samaniego (1 year ago)
+Beasy Ohh, I see. Thanks for answering, mate.
Papa Burny (1 year ago)
Oscar Samaniego At that point, DLC WAS incorporated into the game BUT you needed to pay for it to get crates... crates that MIGHT have something decent.
Oscar Samaniego (1 year ago)
Beasy Wasnt that game free? I mean, I know it was sold at first. But, didnt the game became free to play later on?
Lowlander (2 years ago)
you got nothing you fat bitch.
The Insane Penguin (2 years ago)
If they had no stat boosts and weren't locked behind microtransactions, I'd love to have awesome skins on mah goonz!
Spookyboi (2 years ago)
Eh, it's still a fun game. I bought every single piece of dlc for about £7 when they were on sale. I don't approve of the overabundance of dlc but hey, I can't really complain can I?
Oscar Samaniego (1 year ago)
We know Enjoy the silence, Feel the noise. You CAN complain. Any costumer can complain. Hell, you SHOULD complain, if you feel it's the right thing to do.
ultimateninjaboi (2 years ago)
And this is why "caveat emptor" and "vote with your wallet" are crocks of fucking shit.
Giant Squidy (2 years ago)
I played the crap out of this game for a few days while being deliriously ill, and ever since then I just haven't been able to enjoy this game.
dutstinroach (2 years ago)
Hail to Satan, and Jim motherfucking Sterling son.
The Red Baron (2 years ago)
Hasn't it been basically resolved at this point?
Xavier foster (1 year ago)
Yep. No micro transactions.
Austin James (2 years ago)
Oh my god Jim is crazy I have proof he has a black marker on his desk alien artifacts are proven to make you go bonkers look at Isaac Clark 😂
Person Oisels (2 years ago)
Whenever you say "game industry" my brain hears gamindustri.
Fenrir the Destructive (2 years ago)
The DLC isn't required, it's added on content, not required, and the safes don't need to be opened, plus not all the skins have bonuses and the bonuses are too small to actually do anything.
SanitysEdge (2 years ago)
One thing I'd like to add, even though this is an older video, it's not only that they went back on their promise and that the whole mechanic is a n utter fuckfest, but on top of that the microtransaction is an update linked to the crimefest-event in which several free updates were promised, if a specific amount of dlc-packs linked to the crimefest were bought, kinda like a kickstarter tier mechanic. So thank you Overkill for releasing a "free" update which let's me spend real money so that I can make any use whatsoever out of it's content.
Tezla Alchemia (2 years ago)
shouldn't this have been considered FALSE ADVERTISING!? isnt that ILLEGAL!?
Rascalord (2 years ago)
YES!!!! I HATE THIS FUCKING GAME SO MUCh 99999MILLION DLC!!!! The game isnt even good! its a repetetive wave shooter nothing more! WHY is no one RANTING ABOUT THIS ????!!!
SuperZez (2 years ago)
You could have called this "Fee to Payday", that would've been awesome.
Oscar Samaniego (1 year ago)
SuperZez It is called Pay (space) Day, meaning "day to pay". I didnt notice it at first.
Gabriel Hausen (2 years ago)
So yeah, I am The Power LoosedTrixie7
Mighty Bastard (2 years ago)
I returned to Pay Day 2 to find my max level character was now level 1. No. I will not start over. I refuse.
junichirou nakama (2 years ago)
Aaaaaand they did a Goat Simulator DLC.
Kobalt (2 years ago)
Shrimp?
Bijan Emadi (2 years ago)
Black Ops 3 is trying to pull something like this too; it's bloody gross man.
All Honesty (2 years ago)
One or the other. Pay to play or pay to win. Not both. Great way to loose your poorer gamers. Like me.
Maqil Khan (2 years ago)
YOU NEED TO BUY DRILLZ!
aperturesciencegames (2 years ago)
I got sick of the grinding farm fest in PD2 left for a while, thought "hmm, you know I think I'm going to check it out again, I miss bank robbing " finished a match, got a fucking weapon skin crate, thought "oh...." And left payday 2 forever, was going to go for infamy, but the only thing infamous about payday these days is the degree to which they hold their audience in contempt.
Major Sunset (2 years ago)
fucking gross !
Padpaw22 (2 years ago)
Blizzard pre activision merger once said the same thing about never having a cash shop or charging for extra services. The moral being never doubt people can sell their morals and their ideals for the tiniest bit of cash. Sad to see the once great fall into the pits of greed.
NITE (2 years ago)
but you can get drills from cards too
i like tacos (2 years ago)
7:44 Dude, everyone got the safe at the beginning of the update
CorrosiveFenix (2 years ago)
Sounds like they were trying to pull a TF2 move.
PokeMaster22222 (2 years ago)
Shrimp search =P
best of all, Almir blamed the community for this. 10/10 business model
Ivan Kebab Remover (2 years ago)
I am going to buy this game, because i played it in a friends house and thought it was pretty cool. Or maybe i'll just get myself Rainbow Six Vegas 2 :P not sure though
Ivan Kebab Remover (1 year ago)
time flies
Javasboi (2 years ago)
I hope their The Walking Dead game fails completely, causing a major blow to Overkill. Fuck these pigs, they became so greasy shortly after Payday 2 became a sleeper hit
Noah Boone (2 years ago)
I really don't personally have a problem with the DLCs in the slightest. In Payday 2's case, the money from DLCs has gone to balancing and fixing the games mechanics, and also adding more to the game than I'd ever have thought of. Honestly, I see current Payday 2 (with all the updates and DLC) as Payday 3 essentially, as vanilla Payday 2 is a COMPLETELY different game. You may honestly prefer the DLC weapons than the vanilla ones, and they might have a slight advantage as a result. But they aren't necessary at all. And you don't need to buy a single heist to play it. As long as the host owns it, you can play whatever content you want. Payday 2's handling with DLCs is actually probably the best in the business, by far, but its introduction of microtransactions and the handling that followed is a completely different story.
Blazed-Banana (2 years ago)
Glad i got my 200hrs of gameplay in PD2 back when it came out now its boring af

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